585HE,Cases In Production, Tested Strong----
585 HE ---Tested Super Strong --
If you've followed our work in the 12ga FH thread you've seen
our 585 HE cartridge and its development. there are barrels
of cases and more being made.
We have put it in all kinds of guns, and tested it with 650gr
bullet over 3000 fps as heavy load to test the brass, and also
for lighter game like deer and hogs and target fun we found
that some of 440gr- 540gr 58cal Minie bullets work great.
First picture shows it next to 505 Gibbs, it has same overall
loaded length as a Gibbs. Holds 190gr ball powder under bullets...
Second picture is a barrel of cases..
Third representative of types of guns we have it in.Ed
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We get asked about recoil. Guns are weighted a little, thick pads,
can be ported, use moderate loads, they shoot nice...And moderate
loads still much faster than 577NE. And can be built without
costing a years pay.
Most local users(only 1 in 10000 hunters go Africa) can
shoot lighter .585 Minie bullets, which load for about 75 cents each,
once you have cases. Great for target fun, hogs, deer, etc... Cases
last forever. We can load to any power level we need or want.
We have a way to get 100 cases, dies, barrel to put in something.
There is a die and barrel supply available.
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Asked about using in a #1, And it's perfect case for the Ruger #1.
The few #1s ever done in 577, they had to relieve
metal behind the action shoulders that breach block
rests against because of rim. Ours don't have to and the #1s
extractors I've seen work better with belted case than big rimmed.
Ours holds more powder, cases built for extreme pressures.Ed

If you've followed our work in the 12ga FH thread you've seen
our 585 HE cartridge and its development. there are barrels
of cases and more being made.
We have put it in all kinds of guns, and tested it with 650gr
bullet over 3000 fps as heavy load to test the brass, and also
for lighter game like deer and hogs and target fun we found
that some of 440gr- 540gr 58cal Minie bullets work great.
First picture shows it next to 505 Gibbs, it has same overall
loaded length as a Gibbs. Holds 190gr ball powder under bullets...
Second picture is a barrel of cases..
Third representative of types of guns we have it in.Ed
.
.
.We get asked about recoil. Guns are weighted a little, thick pads,
can be ported, use moderate loads, they shoot nice...And moderate
loads still much faster than 577NE. And can be built without
costing a years pay.
Most local users(only 1 in 10000 hunters go Africa) can
shoot lighter .585 Minie bullets, which load for about 75 cents each,
once you have cases. Great for target fun, hogs, deer, etc... Cases
last forever. We can load to any power level we need or want.
We have a way to get 100 cases, dies, barrel to put in something.
There is a die and barrel supply available.
.
Asked about using in a #1, And it's perfect case for the Ruger #1.
The few #1s ever done in 577, they had to relieve
metal behind the action shoulders that breach block
rests against because of rim. Ours don't have to and the #1s
extractors I've seen work better with belted case than big rimmed.
Ours holds more powder, cases built for extreme pressures.Ed

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Here is picture of 375 Warlord next to our 585 case he made it from.
He is going to make couple later necked down to 416, and 458.
There is another guy working on doing one necked down to 357 wildcat.
Here is a picture of our poster Biebs on AR, 585 HE, in a MPI stock.
He used a big Enfield action, with a fancy jeweled bolt.
We found couple other big actions for our 585, that can even feed really
long overall length loaded cases, like 4.5" long or more, if you are
using long pointed bullets for real long range target and hunting work.
One is Lawton 8000 Cheytac action, and the other is Stiller Cheytac actions
made similiar, justa newer version. Both actions come in 1.45" diameter
and a 1.60" diameter recievers.
And Vestals Gunsmithing in Virginia does great work, decent prices, has
these actions and will build you fancy 585 HEs. .. He has, working with
another guys mag box setup, setup an extra long, good working, single
stack, center feed, magazine..He has our 585 HE reamer on hand, we have
barrels, cases, and reloading dies..Ed
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I am going to lock this and make it a sticky. The pictures are numerous and it is getting to be too long a load time for most.
Feel free to start a new thread anytime!!!0
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