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Powder mixing of shotgun w/imr 4350?

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  • Cheechako
    That's a trick question, right??
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  • charliemeyer007
    I have shot a heck of a lot of duplex loads. They were all compressed charges with no chance for mixing. If you are mixing the powders together you are asking for trouble and a trip to the doc if you live.
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  • richarda
    Never "mix" powders!

    The seldom-used so-called 'duplex' loads of smokeless powders (for advanced experimenters ONLY) involve one powder on top of another, compressed by their own volume or a filler.

    More common is use of a small amount of smokeless under a charge of black powder to reduce fouling.
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  • wpage
    Thanks for the feedback. Not a job for novices.
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  • RobOz
    Don't they use duplex loads to help eliminate hang fires in the big, big African dangerous game rifles?
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  • charliemeyer007
    The original 454 Casull loads were triplex. The purpose is usually to provide for cleaner burning.
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  • Ray Boone
    quote:Originally posted by RobOz
    Don't they use duplex loads to help eliminate hang fires in the big, big African dangerous game rifles?


    There is a difference between a duplex load and mixed powders. 155mm artillery powder charges are basically a duplex load: There is a primer about the size of a 2 1/2" 410 shotshell. Next is the "ignition packet" which has about a half cup of very fast burning powder, the remainder of the charge is smokeless powder that looks like 4350 on steroids; kernals are about .3" diameter, 1" length. So the primer ignites the packet which then blows into the various charge amounts of regular powder. This in smaller scale is the same deal as the large bore rifle cartridges that have a primer, then a small amount of fast powder, which is held in place by a 100% density slow powder.

    Mixing the two powders would change the burn rate to some entirely different curve and if you were going to experiment with it make sure your health insurance is active and you might want to schedule an appointment with the doctor so you won't have to wait in the emergency room.
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  • Mobuck
    "How wrong is it to mix up shotgun powder with high power rifle powder like imr4350?"
    AS WRONG AS ANYTHING COULD POSSIBLY BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Don't do it. The gain cannot possibly be worth the risk involved.
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  • bpost
    My first question is WHY? Is there a result being sought? What is the idea behind the question?
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  • machine gun moran
    I believe that some European proof houses concocted duplex and triplex loads that would maintain an internal barrel pressure that was equal to the maximum breech pressure, all he way down the bore. And probably produced a muzzle blast that ruptured every can of beer in the County. I don't know what barrel-wall thicknesses they were working with, but I don't think they were standard.
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