300 WSM Powder
Looks like I'll be loading for a 300 WSM soon. I will be using 180g Nosler Bullets. Curious to see what peoples favorite powders are. I have the books just wanting to get some direction. Thanks.
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I have been playing recently with a Savage 11 in .300 WSM, 24" barrel. With 180 gr. bullets, I tried 64 gr. of IMR4350 and got good accuracy and 2950 fps. That's not an over the top load and the velocity is about what I expect from the WSM. I tried RL19 too and it took 68 gr. to get the same velocity and my notes indicated "flat primers" (I used WLRM primers with all loads). You might want to try one of the 4831's or one of the other 4350's but I haven't gone there, yet.
I would expect that the faster burning of the "usual suspects" for the Winchester 'Long' Magnum will work about the best for our WSM's. FWIW: It took 72 gr. of IMR4350 to reach 2950 with 180's in my 24" Winchester 'Long' Magnum.
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Ramshot Hunter was developed for the WSMs, excellent choice.
R-17 and MRP are tough to beat as well.Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP) Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 154 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Norma MRP 105.2 73.0 4.73 3094 99.8 63000 12179 1.138 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 106.9 72.6 4.70 3082 97.8 63000 12418 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 109.5 77.6 5.03 3074 98.5 63000 12178 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 109.3 77.5 5.02 3073 98.6 63000 12159 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 107.2 75.7 4.91 3070 96.5 63000 12457 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 105.3 71.9 4.66 3063 98.1 63000 11994 1.128 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 107.2 72.0 4.66 3059 99.1 63000 11969 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 107.2 72.0 4.66 3059 99.1 63000 11969 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 107.2 72.0 4.66 3059 99.1 63000 11969 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 110.0 72.3 4.68 3056 99.0 62880 11978 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP15 110.0 72.3 4.68 3056 99.0 62880 11978 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 106.2 71.3 4.62 3046 98.0 63000 11879 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 106.6 77.2 5.00 3035 99.5 63000 11412 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 94.4 65.8 4.26 3034 100.0 63000 10734 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 94.4 65.8 4.26 3034 100.0 63000 10734 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 110.0 75.9 4.92 3032 98.1 63000 11698 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 110.0 71.0 4.60 3022 97.7 60271 11884 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 108.3 71.4 4.63 3020 97.7 63000 11618 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 103.1 68.1 4.41 3013 98.9 63000 11313 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 103.7 68.9 4.46 3011 99.0 63000 11386 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 96.0 68.0 4.40 3009 100.0 63000 11056 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 99.2 68.1 4.41 3008 100.0 63000 11041 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 109.8 74.4 4.82 3007 96.0 63000 11667 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 93.7 65.8 4.27 3005 99.8 63000 11070 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 93.7 65.8 4.27 3005 99.8 63000 11070 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 104.4 69.4 4.50 3004 98.9 63000 11302 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 101.0 66.8 4.33 2998 100.0 63000 10243 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 72.7 4.71 2995 100.0 56365 11602 1.187 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 95.9 65.1 4.22 2986 100.0 63000 10695 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 98.7 64.9 4.20 2986 100.0 63000 10558 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 98.7 64.9 4.21 2986 100.0 63000 10555 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 101.5 67.4 4.37 2986 98.8 63000 11079 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 101.5 67.4 4.37 2986 98.8 63000 11079 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 98.3 67.4 4.37 2986 98.8 63000 11079 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 104.8 70.4 4.56 2982 97.3 63000 11182 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 109.0 70.4 4.56 2982 97.3 63000 11182 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 97.9 65.1 4.22 2982 100.0 63000 10519 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 103.9 69.8 4.52 2974 99.5 63000 10881 1.161 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 103.6 65.9 4.27 2968 100.0 63000 10325 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 99.1 66.8 4.33 2963 99.6 63000 10686 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 107.2 71.2 4.61 2963 100.0 63000 10576 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 92.3 63.3 4.10 2963 100.0 63000 10161 1.154 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 102.1 71.5 4.63 2961 98.8 63000 10793 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N165 109.3 71.8 4.65 2957 99.3 63000 10610 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 102.3 67.0 4.34 2954 98.0 63000 10788 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 98.3 64.6 4.19 2947 99.8 63000 10505 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 101.0 65.7 4.26 2946 99.4 63000 10480 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 99.2 65.5 4.25 2946 99.5 63000 10459 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 101.3 65.1 4.22 2943 100.0 63000 9720 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 91.2 61.9 4.01 2942 100.0 63000 10191 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 90.2 60.0 3.89 2941 100.0 63000 9960 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 93.2 62.5 4.05 2939 99.8 63000 10185 1.138 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 109.2 69.5 4.51 2936 97.9 63000 10583 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 91.5 61.4 3.98 2929 100.0 63000 9803 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 91.5 61.4 3.98 2929 100.0 63000 9803 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 91.8 60.0 3.89 2928 100.0 63000 9687 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 96.0 62.6 4.06 2926 99.5 63000 10333 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 96.0 62.6 4.06 2926 99.5 63000 10333 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 90.8 62.3 4.04 2926 100.0 63000 9926 1.160 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 93.0 62.7 4.06 2925 99.5 63000 10326 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 93.5 61.5 3.98 2924 100.0 63000 9720 1.175 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 97.2 63.2 4.09 2923 100.0 63000 10107 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 93.7 60.9 3.95 2920 100.0 63000 9738 1.169 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 101.2 71.6 4.64 2920 97.3 63000 10561 1.158 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 94.8 62.6 4.06 2916 100.0 63000 9910 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 92.4 59.6 3.86 2913 100.0 63000 9710 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 92.7 59.6 3.86 2913 100.0 63000 9710 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP30 110.0 73.1 4.74 2908 96.6 51272 11969 1.249 Norma MRP 2 110.0 73.1 4.74 2908 96.6 51272 11969 1.249 IMR 4064 93.2 58.5 3.79 2904 100.0 63000 9515 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N570 110.0 77.1 4.99 2900 90.3 49910 12656 1.2560 -
I'd be trying bullets between 165 and 200. I like the usually bargain priced partial boxes on the gun show tables. Or ask your buddies for some. I would try and stick to a ball powder like H414, and buy it in a big can if I could. Not sure I'd trust the availability of the foreign made stuff, tough enough to get North American made powder.
I would acquire at least 200 rounds on new brass and work it over. Once I found the load the rifle likes, I would buy bullets and powder in stoichiometric quantities.0 -
I would start with RL-17, You will find your load. 0 -
I use H1000, which I didn't see on steve4102's list. I also didn't see VV N170. Both good powders. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
I use H1000, which I didn't see on steve4102's list. I also didn't see VV N170. Both good powders.Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP) Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : Hodgdon H1000 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 85 56.00 2115 1788 23533 7699 78.0 1.743 -18.0 87 57.40 2173 1887 25114 8040 79.9 1.698 -16.0 89 58.80 2232 1992 26809 8379 81.7 1.653 -14.0 92 60.20 2293 2101 28634 8714 83.5 1.609 -12.0 94 61.60 2354 2216 30596 9044 85.2 1.565 -10.0 96 63.00 2417 2335 32707 9366 86.8 1.522 -08.0 98 64.40 2480 2459 34989 9679 88.4 1.480 -06.0 100 65.80 2544 2587 37450 9981 90.0 1.438 -04.0 102 67.20 2609 2721 40112 10270 91.4 1.391 -02.0 104 68.60 2675 2859 42994 10543 92.8 1.345 +00.0 107 70.00 2741 3002 46122 10800 94.0 1.301 +02.0 109 71.40 2807 3150 49518 11038 95.2 1.258 +04.0 111 72.80 2874 3302 53218 11254 96.2 1.217 +06.0 113 74.20 2942 3459 57255 11448 97.1 1.177 ! Near Maximum ! +08.0 115 75.60 3010 3620 61676 11617 97.9 1.138 ! Near Maximum ! +10.0 117 77.00 3078 3786 66521 11760 98.6 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ? 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 107 70.00 2926 3421 55828 10991 99.3 1.192 ! Near Maximum ! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 107 70.00 2509 2515 37662 9847 83.5 1.438
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Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP) Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : Vihtavuori N170 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 90 59.20 2134 1821 25000 7687 74.3 1.732 -18.0 92 60.68 2194 1924 26783 8004 75.9 1.686 -16.0 95 62.16 2255 2032 28711 8320 77.5 1.640 -14.0 97 63.64 2316 2145 30796 8635 79.1 1.595 -12.0 99 65.12 2379 2261 33055 8948 80.7 1.551 -10.0 101 66.60 2442 2383 35504 9257 82.2 1.508 -08.0 104 68.08 2505 2509 38141 9562 83.7 1.462 -06.0 106 69.56 2570 2640 40973 9860 85.2 1.414 -04.0 108 71.04 2635 2775 44036 10152 86.6 1.366 -02.0 110 72.52 2701 2916 47364 10435 87.9 1.320 +00.0 113 74.00 2768 3062 50985 10709 89.3 1.276 +02.0 115 75.48 2835 3213 54931 10971 90.5 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! +04.0 117 76.96 2903 3369 59239 11220 91.7 1.191 ! Near Maximum ! +06.0 119 78.44 2972 3530 63954 11455 92.8 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 122 79.92 3041 3697 69127 11674 93.9 1.111 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 124 81.40 3112 3870 74818 11876 94.9 1.073 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ? 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 113 74.00 2951 3481 62261 11199 95.9 1.168 ! Near Maximum ! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 113 74.00 2547 2592 40405 9757 79.5 1.414
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steve4102,
Thanks for posting those![:D]0 -
Thanks for the info! I really appreciate it. 0 -
My best results came with IMR 4350 and IMR 4831 using 180 gr Ballistic Silvertips. I was able to get under 1/2 in with both these powders 0 -
My best results came with 180 ballistic Silvertips an IMR 4350 and IMR 4831. 0 -
I use Reloader 22 with a 180 grain Nosler BT sparked by a federal 215m. 0
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