win small pistol primers - bad batch?

rp85

March 07, 2014 13:32

hello;

got these win small pistol primers @ 3mos ago. load is for 38special, 140 grain lee cast bullet, 3.0 grains of bullseye, taper crimp, oal 1.45"

primer is not igniting pistol powder in @10% fired. primer is going off but not the powder. the bullseye powder is @6mos old and always stored inside. not good when you have to drive the bullets out of a barrel with a brass rod and hammer.

any suggestion? harder crimp??? at a loss, never had this happen before.

thanks for any input.

rp

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  perry shooter

  March 07, 2014 14:07

  does the primer go off but powder does not[?]That is the way I read your post. If so and the primers have enough pop to stick the bullet part way down the barrel Then IMHO the problem is Not the primer but the powder. sounds like your powder measure is not dropping any powder in some cases [:(] or powder CLUMPING or maybe your bullet lube is getting on the powder charge. [V] What kind of lube are you using. [?]

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  charliemeyer007

  March 07, 2014 15:49

  +1 perry shooter. Does the powder in the can have a sweet solvent aroma or a bitter acrid one? No red dust on the powder either.
  
  Erratic charges due static cling. How are you dispensing the charge?
  Wipe the base of your bullets to remove any lube, it doesn't take much to kill 3 gr of Bullseye. 158 gr cast with 3 gr Bullseye is one of my favorite 38 Special loads.

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  Mobuck

  March 08, 2014 03:28

  My guess is bullet lube contamination of the powder.
  Just my thoughts but I would expect to see some serious problems crop up since the price of components may lead folks to use old or poorly stored stuff. Unscrupulous sellers may decide to pawn off their old powder or bum bullets at high prices to someone too far away to come back on them.
  A few years ago, I had a customer bring in 3# of IMR4350 he'd bought at a flea market. Cans looked perfect but the powder was ruined-probably from high temp storage. He was not a happy camper when I told him to dump it.

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  machine gun moran

  March 17, 2014 22:27

  Perry shooter is on the money.
  
  But I have started to avoid using Unique, which used to be my favorite powder. I had read reports that the Lyman data for Unique in the .45 ACP was no longer good, but no one knew why, because the Lyman load data had not changed. I had used the Lyman data for decades in the .45, for loads from light, to max, without any problems. But then I loaded a batch with a charge that was only respectable (not max), that I had been using forever, and blew the grips off my gun. I pulled every bullet from the remaining ammunition, weighed several charges (all were correct), and reassembled some of the components into new rounds, with individually-weighed charges. These almost blew the case heads. The brass was swelled out in the unsupported section (the feed ramp) to the point where the cases were actually quite shortened. So I've switched to other powders in the .45ACP. BTW, I find Lyman data to be the most conservative, and I have used it almost exclusively for most of my life.

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