30-06 Cast Bullets And International Clays

MG1890

February 24, 2014 15:17

Looking for a load. 180 grain cast bullets. I have a full can of International Clays that would be really nice to use!! I don't need or want max velocities, just an accurate target load. Thanks!

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  Ray Boone

  February 24, 2014 19:35

  I have an old Lyman Cast bullet loading manual. It has several loads for 180 gr 30-06 loads, unfortunately the manual is older than the powder. I can photo the loads page so you can get an idea of what the various loads are, but any estimating what an International Clay load would be is strictly your responsibility.

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  victorj19

  February 25, 2014 12:30

  If the manufacturer doesn't have any load data for a specific cartridge, you're on your own. Hogdon has nothing for the 30-06 using International Clays: http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle for any bullet weight.
  
  Clays has the 10th fastest burn rate of 145 powders listed: http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html
  
  IMHO Clays shouldn't be used in rifle cartridges.

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  CapnMidnight

  February 25, 2014 14:26

  I have to agree, Clays is way too fast for a necked rifle case like an 06.
  I load cast gas check bullets in booth my 30-40 Krag using IMR 4198, and my Winchester 95 30-06 using H4895.
  W.D.

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  Ray Boone

  February 25, 2014 18:13

  According to Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook (1973) suitable loads for 30-06 with various cast bullets and fast burning powder are shown in the photos below:
  
  
  
  

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  Hawk Carse

  February 25, 2014 19:06

  There have been a lot of cast bullets shot with pistol and shotgun powders IF YOU ARE AGREEABLE TO PISTOL VELOCITY.
  
  Ed Harris developed The Load of 13 grains of Red Dot for .30-06 and other full power military and sporting cartridges. I approximate it with 12.5 grains of 700X. I would not mind working with Clays.
  
  Unfortunately the OP has INTERNATIONAL Clays, which is not the same stuff. (Take note of that victorj19 and CaptainMidnight.) I do not think there is any rifle or pistol data for INTERNATIONAL Clays, although there is for "plain" Clays and Universal Clays. They seem not to want International Clays used in any rifled barrel.

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  jonk

  February 26, 2014 04:12

  You want to head over to the cast boolit forum and ask this. Someone there will surely have done it.

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  MG1890

  March 03, 2014 13:55

  I took the advice here and loaded with 25.0 gr of IMR-4895. (4) consecutive 5 shot groups at 100 yards were each in the 1.25" range. Not bad!
  
  Next I will try a load ladder in 2 grain increments to look for a velocity "sweet spot".
  
  Thanks everybody!

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  charliemeyer007

  March 03, 2014 21:39

  25gr of H4895 on top of Lyman 323470 in an 8mm-06 was one of my favorite loads.

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