Is Israel Going to Invade Gaza?
Is Israel going to invade Gaza? I think this time they might and destroy the Hamas organization once and for all...or at least put a ring around Gaza and block the tunnels from Egypt and Sinai to keep the missiles from coming in from those two borders. Time to cut the snakes head off IMO. Go IDF! Your views?
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quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Seems that you are are ignorant of, or are ignoring, the facts as well.
After expelling the UN from Sinai and mobilizing troops to occupy, and also closing the Straits of Tiran, Nassar stumbled into a war.
Syria foolishly followed, with Jordan as well.
Perty bad ideas.
JFK refused to arm Israel and it was one of several reasons they had for murdering him. Their bought and paid for men in the White House LBJ and Hubey Humphrey saw to it that they received tanks, attack bombers and tens of million of dollars in other military gear. Those two toads armed Israel in anticipation of the 67 land grab. U.S. forces were forced to support the Israeli forces in planning and preparing for the attack. We knew that it was coming at least six months before it took place.0 -
Back to the thread topic! How long to you think Israel will "mow the lawn and pull the weeds?" Heard today that 13 IDF soldiers were caught in a Hamas ambush....maybe last another two weeks? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Funny how people's ideas of history are so shaped by their fear.
The fear of repeating past abuses is so over done. For instance the history, the driving force behind this nation to sell arms is and always has been money, but understanding that isn't even worth considering because of how "funny" it is.
It ticks off those who are against the nations we sell to and they retaliate. As long as they retaliate against the insignificant people, an outcry is heard, but business as usual. Let the influential become the targets and we'll go to war. That's the history behind our involvement into WWI, merchant ships being targeted while we prospered selling arms in Europe was a small business loss. Drill a luxury liner and war baby, war. Fearing a repeat of that is "funny".
A modern day equivalent would be 9-11.
Why did we care about Kiwatte? Money, governments are run by it and those who hold it. Attack the wealthy in this country and nations will invade to protect them. keep that in mind.
Why side with Israel? You get the drift. Fortunes are made providing weapons.
Here's a fear, because we fear and refuse to get along we've allowed our government weapons of massive destruction times a zillion. We were never supposed to allow our government to become more powerful than the people could keep in check, yet we not only have, we've at the same time allowed the same government to disallow the people the legal authority to become as equally armed, also times a zillion.
Fear of repeating past abuses is so over done, it's funny, till it isn't.
We once forbid any Chinese immigration for 10 years and before the time was up we changed it to indefinitely. That was done by the administration of WWI. Hows that worked out? We're pretty much owned by China now. What's changed and why did it happen to begin with?
Fortunes are made when people don't get along, that's whats driving the conflict over there. Obama's coming for your guns, what was the result? Fortunes are still being made on that one. The more people hate, the easier it is to sell.0 -
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
...and as I remember(Saigon 1967) The Israeli Army was attacked by Egyptian Forces,and was dispatched by Israeli Tank Brigades...The IDF AF killed whole divisions of Egyptian soldiers and armor...why?...Because they were attacked!
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I don't know what the color of the sky is in your world [?] You have been given a load of bull by someone. I seem to recall this Arabs attacked Israel from you before. Your religious leaders or so called scholars are blowing smoke into you. The Israeli forces attacked the Arabs. There was no declaration of war....it was a sneak attack which caught most of the Arab air forces on the ground thereby given the Israeli forces air superiority. When the U.S. brokered a cease fire the Israeli forces violated the cease fire in order to seize the Golan Heights. Learn some history ........not the twisted Jewish version but accurate history.
[/quote]I like the twisted version of the "Zionist"...you know why? Jesus was a Jew!0 -
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
...and as I remember(Saigon 1967) The Israeli Army was attacked by Egyptian Forces,and was dispatched by Israeli Tank Brigades...The IDF AF killed whole divisions of Egyptian soldiers and armor...why?...Because they were attacked!
I don't know what the color of the sky is in your world [?] You have been given a load of bull by someone. I seem to recall this Arabs attacked Israel from you before. Your religious leaders or so called scholars are blowing smoke into you. The Israeli forces attacked the Arabs. There was no declaration of war....it was a sneak attack which caught most of the Arab air forces on the ground thereby given the Israeli forces air superiority. When the U.S. brokered a cease fire the Israeli forces violated the cease fire in order to seize the Golan Heights. Learn some history ........not the twisted Jewish version but accurate history.
[/quote]I like the twisted version of the "Zionist"...you know why? Jesus was a Jew!
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And they let him die to save Barabbas who they considered a hero and patriot. How many Jews did the Mossad sacrifice in the trade towers?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks.
http://www.debka.com/article/24122/IDF-Commanders-Time-for-decisive-war-move-after-IDF-victories-in-Shejaiya-E-Rafah-and-Khan-Younes-
Barzilla....interesting read. Bibi has his guys on the right who want to go in and clean the place out once and for all....but they are not doing well in the PR War, hitting schools and such and killing little kids. One just wonders why the folks in Gaza, who actually HAVE their homeland, would not work harder with Israel to strike a deal. Being beside a thriving hitech democracy could do nothing but benefit the folks in Gaza...instead they are being pulled around by the nose by a terrorist organization that can't even pay its bills and does nothing bu work on rockets to fire into Israel.....which gets them nothing.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks.
http://www.debka.com/article/24122/IDF-Commanders-Time-for-decisive-war-move-after-IDF-victories-in-Shejaiya-E-Rafah-and-Khan-Younes-
Barzilla....interesting read. Bibi has his guys on the right who want to go in and clean the place out once and for all....but they are not doing well in the PR War, hitting schools and such and killing little kids. One just wonders why the folks in Gaza, who actually HAVE their homeland, would not work harder with Israel to strike a deal. Being beside a thriving hitech democracy could do nothing but benefit the folks in Gaza...instead they are being pulled around by the nose by a terrorist organization that can't even pay its bills and does nothing bu work on rockets to fire into Israel.....which gets them nothing.
The folks in Gaza have had their homeland and the future of their children stolen from them a bit at a time since WW1. What would you do if the 11,000,000 illegals in this country were given your home state by the U.N. and you were treated as the people of Palestine have been treated. I think that you would try to fight back.0 -
The only thing missing from this thread is a mention of The Elders of Zion. 0 -
Well, the Israeli thugs are burning up their fuel reserves. It won't be long before we start to replace their reserves from our oil reserves as per the 1972 Kissinger agreement. When we're out of oil and the Rothschild's control the world oil reserves..........guess who will rule? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
Well, the Israeli thugs are burning up their fuel reserves. It won't be long before we start to replace their reserves from our oil reserves as per the 1972 Kissinger agreement. When we're out of oil and the Rothschild's control the world oil reserves..........guess who will rule?
I thought they already did?
I really have to learn to keep up.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks.
http://www.debka.com/article/24122/IDF-Commanders-Time-for-decisive-war-move-after-IDF-victories-in-Shejaiya-E-Rafah-and-Khan-Younes-
Barzilla....interesting read. Bibi has his guys on the right who want to go in and clean the place out once and for all....but they are not doing well in the PR War, hitting schools and such and killing little kids. One just wonders why the folks in Gaza, who actually HAVE their homeland, would not work harder with Israel to strike a deal. Being beside a thriving hitech democracy could do nothing but benefit the folks in Gaza...instead they are being pulled around by the nose by a terrorist organization that can't even pay its bills and does nothing bu work on rockets to fire into Israel.....which gets them nothing.
The folks in Gaza have had their homeland and the future of their children stolen from them a bit at a time since WW1. What would you do if the 11,000,000 illegals in this country were given your home state by the U.N. and you were treated as the people of Palestine have been treated. I think that you would try to fight back.
Well, would you fight back ? I know that I would and I am sure that the rest of the people on this forum would.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks.
http://www.debka.com/article/24122/IDF-Commanders-Time-for-decisive-war-move-after-IDF-victories-in-Shejaiya-E-Rafah-and-Khan-Younes-
Barzilla....interesting read. Bibi has his guys on the right who want to go in and clean the place out once and for all....but they are not doing well in the PR War, hitting schools and such and killing little kids. One just wonders why the folks in Gaza, who actually HAVE their homeland, would not work harder with Israel to strike a deal. Being beside a thriving hitech democracy could do nothing but benefit the folks in Gaza...instead they are being pulled around by the nose by a terrorist organization that can't even pay its bills and does nothing bu work on rockets to fire into Israel.....which gets them nothing.
The folks in Gaza have had their homeland and the future of their children stolen from them a bit at a time since WW1. What would you do if the 11,000,000 illegals in this country were given your home state by the U.N. and you were treated as the people of Palestine have been treated. I think that you would try to fight back.
Would you fight back?0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Back to the topic. I like it that Bibi is keeping the pressure on no what POTUS and Kerry are telling him. Got to "pull the weeds" and take out those tunnels and Hama's is playing right into his hands by refusing to start to sit down and talk with them.....those Hama's guys are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer...even Abba's asked them what they were going to get with rockets! I think it will last another couple of weeks.
http://www.debka.com/article/24122/IDF-Commanders-Time-for-decisive-war-move-after-IDF-victories-in-Shejaiya-E-Rafah-and-Khan-Younes-
Barzilla....interesting read. Bibi has his guys on the right who want to go in and clean the place out once and for all....but they are not doing well in the PR War, hitting schools and such and killing little kids. One just wonders why the folks in Gaza, who actually HAVE their homeland, would not work harder with Israel to strike a deal. Being beside a thriving hitech democracy could do nothing but benefit the folks in Gaza...instead they are being pulled around by the nose by a terrorist organization that can't even pay its bills and does nothing bu work on rockets to fire into Israel.....which gets them nothing.
The folks in Gaza have had their homeland and the future of their children stolen from them a bit at a time since WW1. What would you do if the 11,000,000 illegals in this country were given your home state by the U.N. and you were treated as the people of Palestine have been treated. I think that you would try to fight back.
Would you fight back?
Yes, you are right...."The folks in Gaza have had their homeland..." in Gaza for years and what have they done with it? Took concrete for homes and built tunnels to attack Israel, build rockets to continue to attack their neighboring country instead of building up their homeland's much needed infrastructure. Quit defending a terror organization and get with building the concept of a two state solution which Abba's and the PLO want....I listened to their spokesman today and he made lots of sense....two state solution on 1967 borders, West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem....makes lots of sense. The sooner the Israeli's start sitting down with Abbas and talking, the sooner the situation could be settled. They recognize Israels right to exist, why don't you? Your arguments are just anti-Jew silliness that even the 2014 PLO doesn't spout anymore.0
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