What Would Bush Do
If he was president still. With the 2 things going on in Israel and Russia.
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Bush would have been impeached by now if he had done the things Obama and his administration have done and continue to do. 0 -
Doesn't matter what went before.
Odumba will do nothing, because he knows nothing, and he can't get past his belief that all he has to do is talk about something and the problem goes away. Then he can play some more golf, and eat some more lobster, paid for by the white heathens who have robbed the world and enslaved his half bros. Because he is Odumba the Great, the All Powerful Wizard, the Perfect Specimen whose Presence We Shall All Revere and Worship, and Whose Brilliance is Brighter Than the Sun.
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quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
Nothing, if he were in office this would not have happened.
Sooo... it didn't happen in Georgia either then eh?
Ah yes. My favorite liberal. Mr opposite man. CiT, tell me something. Why are you here? Do you ever shoot? Hunt? Do you even own a gun? Really, I cant recall you ever talking about something you have done with a gun.
You are front and center to take issue with every word I say. I hit the post button, instantly hit refresh knowing you have relied with something I have said.
It never fails. You are more accurate than a swiss movement.
So I often wonder, what would have done different than Bush. I mean you are really full of hatred towards the guy, as most liberals are because the media instructs such insanity,
so why not start a post rather than just sit around attacking what every single person in here has to say?0 -
Here are some of the comments on the Russian invasion of Georgia during GW's final term:
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=319298
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quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
Nothing, if he were in office this would not have happened.
Sooo... it didn't happen in Georgia either then eh?
Comparing apples to oranges. Georgia is not the Ukraine...by a long shot. But who would know what he would do...but what you can't deny is they guy had backbone and was not afraid to act which most of you guys criticize him for doing. He was proactive and led from the front, not from behind. One on hand he is criticized for doing too much...and now he is criticized here by some for doing too little. One thing is for sure....he would not been at fundraisers, golfin' or standing on a bridge in DE or eating a burger at the Charcoal Pit in Wilmington holding babies and chatting it up in the "community" about being surrounded by better looking Biden's.
The problem with that yarn is Bush would either do nothing or do the dumbest thing he could come up with. Such as attacking the wrong country over 9/11.
Or completely misreading Putin by urging Georgia's entry into NATO in-spite of European reservations and NATO's charter exclusion prohibiting it. As if that wouldn't spur Putin into acting out militarily, seeing as how Bush saw into Putin's Soul and all that.
Bush misread Putin so badly that the day following their face to face meeting in China, Putin sent 9,000 troops, 350 tanks and massive air power into Georgia:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1043236/Georgia-overrun-Russian-troops-scale-ground-invasion-begins.html
Bush delayed his vacation by all of a day, but he still went on vacation while Georgia was being invaded. He still went to fundraisers. He continued to be a Politician, just like every other asshat.
The only way you are ever going to find a politician that does not play golf or take a vacation or attend a fundraiser during a crisis is if you outlaw all those activities.
Good luck with that plan, but I suspect the politicians will write up a whole bunch of exemptions in the rules.0 -
didn't Bush refer to him as Puttee-Poo. I have looked into his soul, and he is a good man. isn't that Pres. Bush's words? or similar? 0 -
On bush's worst day was better than anything we have had from Obama.
Obama administration is the most corrupt and a disaster in the history or the United States in my opinion.0 -
Whatever Dick Cheney says 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
Nothing, if he were in office this would not have happened.
Sooo... it didn't happen in Georgia either then eh?
What American say's, Eh?0 -
Ukraine shot down an airplane and killed a US citizen, Bush would invade Iraq. 0 -
Why are the liberals not throwing Clinton under the bus for bombing Iraq in 98?
Yeah, he did!
Look it up. Not a word about that eh? Not a single word? And he tried to get us into a war in russia to.
Noone seems to remember the lefts war efforts. Clinton was kile a kid on Christmas Morning wanting to go to war he was jumping at shadows.0 -
Getting a little heavy 0 -
Ask how "Al Gore" would have done?[:o)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by FrancF
Getting a little heavy
There's always a few people who turn to the worst sort of insults when their personal history of the world is challenged by unpleasant realities. It's gotten to the point where at least one, sometimes several post little barbs in completely unrelated threads anytime they see my user name. Even when I agree with them, it just doesn't matter to them anymore.
There's a hell of a lot I could say about all that. I don't because when I do it's the other guy that flies off the handle and does something to get banned. Not sure why I still hold off so much. Couple of people asked me privately to not help their friends get banned by holding back on my own reply. I don't see it working to tamp down the rude behavior, but it's not my way to respond in kind. Oh well.
Anyway, this has been moved to "Politics", a place I rarely visit and never subscribe to. Too much partisan crapola for me. Guess I'll just wrap it up and unsubscribe from this one.
In a moment ...
The original question was "What Would Bush Do"? Well, there's a history there. He did very poorly with his turn at bat. There's quite a lot of re-writing of history going on to claim he did better, and challenging that brings heaps of insults. Not from everyone, just a few. There's always a few.
As I've said in other threads, Obama is a weak and ineffectual leader. In other words, merely a politician. In dealing with Russia that makes him a lot like Bush. The only thing available to add to this turn with the Russians is economic sanctions, and that's being done. Not very well, due to European reservations and Obama's inability to convince them. There's that weak and ineffectual thing again. Oh, and he pulled in some Russian shotguns and such like that Americans should have enough love of country to not buy anyway. Still, he should not have done that. Bad move.
As for what "side" I lean towards my posts should have revealed that. But because I do not use a nasty, tasteless, 12 year old fart jokes level of insults even for politicians AND I speak to facts not partisan ideology, I get labeled.
All my posts being Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Border Security, pro-Capital Punishment, Pro-Fiscal Intelligence and Pro-Military get ignored. Same deal with all my posts on guns get ignored. Discussions on building AR's. On problems and parts and values. Pictures of what I own. Comparisons of the pistols I carry and how I carry them. The shotguns I keep at the ready (one has a bayonet). My experiences using guns for self defense (twice with people, once with wild animals). Posts on how to find .22 ammo, which I have done well in finding without paying gouger prices. Posts on teaching kids to shoot. Posts of my kid doing fantastic in ROTC. I read Ask The Experts a lot and have posted there, been quite some time since posting though.
All ignored by the haters because I won't use the child-like language others use when talking about politicians and I refuse to buy into their fiction-filled re-writes of history.
History does not support or oppose any side. It's just History. After that comes Politics, which is the enemy of History.
I was pissed at people who PhotoShopped Bush to look like a monkey. Same deal with turning Obama into a the Joker, or whatever. All that stuff is crap. Helps nothing, solves nothing. Raises the noise level without offering a single idea, a single fix to anything. Makes matters worse. I'm sick of it, have been for decades. None of it is constructive, it's all destructive. There's no intelligence to American political discussion anymore. We've devolved into the 1830's and 1840's all over again.
Yes, it would take a knowledge of history and a willingness to read actual books to know what that last comment refers to. I won't explain it further. People here wish to know more they can get of the computer and go to a library.
Again, this has been moved to Politics. The Dung Heap of the Forums.
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Originally posted by gary wray
So many "Bush haters" here! Kinda sad, actually. He is looking better and better as each year passes....kinda like Harry Truman and his legacy.
The mess that we see in the Middle East is the Harry Truman legacy. When the Zionists were pushing for the creation of Israel, Truman's advisers spoke against it. After receiving threats, toxic material in his mail, over $1,000,000 cash ( The buck stopped there )[:D] and the nomination to run for president, he changed his mind and supported the creation of Israel. The Communists were more than happy to see this happen. Large numbers of Communist agents were moved into Israel with the illegal immigrants that flooded in from Eastern Europe and Russia providing the basis for the Israeli Soviet. The Arab states turned against the U.S. and opened their doors to Russia as a result of Truman's actions.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
The mess that we see in the Middle East is the Harry Truman legacy.
Just about every war or "police action" since WWII has taken place because Truman chose to listen to his advisors who were a bunch of jealous generals instead of listening to General MacArthur.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
The mess that we see in the Middle East is the Harry Truman legacy.
Just about every war or "police action" since WWII has taken place because Truman chose to listen to his advisors who were a bunch of jealous generals instead of listening to General MacArthur.
If he had listened to them instead of the Communists Morgenthua and Baruch, we wouldn't have the mess that we have today.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
So many "Bush haters" here! Kinda sad, actually. He is looking better and better as each year passes....kinda like Harry Truman and his legacy. Who knows what he would have done...but I don't think he would have been doing a fundraiser or going golfin' when the crisis (es) were happening. I would like to think that he would tell the country that we are going to help folks who ask for our material help (with something more than MRE's) and rally the cause against tyranny....Russian style. But you either have a backbone or you don't and both Bush presidents have one and the one we got now just kinda struts and acts cocky but not much in the backbone dept IMO.
I hate to think Harry Truman is the best example you can think of.
What about the mess he left us with in North Korea or Israel/Palestine? What about Communist China, the Soviet atomic bomb & all the traitors in the State Department?0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ Originally posted by gary wray
So many "Bush haters" here! Kinda sad, actually. He is looking better and better as each year passes....kinda like Harry Truman and his legacy.
The mess that we see in the Middle East is the Harry Truman legacy. When the Zionists were pushing for the creation of Israel, Truman's advisers spoke against it. After receiving threats, toxic material in his mail, over $1,000,000 cash ( The buck stopped there )[:D] and the nomination to run for president, he changed his mind and supported the creation of Israel. The Communists were more than happy to see this happen. Large numbers of Communist agents were moved into Israel with the illegal immigrants that flooded in from Eastern Europe and Russia providing the basis for the Israeli Soviet. The Arab states turned against the U.S. and opened their doors to Russia as a result of Truman's actions.
Now we are getting off on hating Harry Truman! What a hoot! Brings to mind the old song R&R song (from a DE Rocker!)........"Who do you love?" Hate Bush, hate HST....the list is long I guess. Where is my tin hat[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
So many "Bush haters" here! Kinda sad, actually. He is looking better and better as each year passes....kinda like Harry Truman and his legacy. Who knows what he would have done...but I don't think he would have been doing a fundraiser or going golfin' when the crisis (es) were happening. I would like to think that he would tell the country that we are going to help folks who ask for our material help (with something more than MRE's) and rally the cause against tyranny....Russian style. But you either have a backbone or you don't and both Bush presidents have one and the one we got now just kinda struts and acts cocky but not much in the backbone dept IMO.
I hate to think Harry Truman is the best example you can think of.
What about the mess he left us with in North Korea or Israel/Palestine? What about Communist China, the Soviet atomic bomb & all the traitors in the State Department?
See the previous comment^^^^^!0 -
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Ukraine + Russia + Malaysia
Why should we stick our nose and tax dollars into it?
Founders of this nation boldly proclaimed this country is here so the wealthy can make money off of it. It really isn't hard to understand.
People complain about welfare and the poor, but where does every tax dollar go? They don't keep any, it's all spent, who gets it and don't for a second think those who get it are clueless how it got there. They all know how things work. That why "we" stick our necks out.
The really funny thing is, it doesn't work. If it did it wouldn't take a billionaire today to be as well off as a millionaire was 100 years ago. The thing has made the dollar worth very little.
Their making money, but at every twisted turn they make it worth less.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Now we are getting off on hating Harry Truman! What a hoot! Brings to mind the old song R&R song (from a DE Rocker!)........"Who do you love?" Hate Bush, hate HST....the list is long I guess. Where is my tin hat[;)]
Why is it hate? A bad tree produces bad fruit, you don't hate the fruit or the tree, but you have serious doubts about the people who planted it. Governments can do nothing unless the people empower it. Thousands of years and people still don't understand how government is empowered.
Governments are born out of abuse, a bad tree that was planted.
I'll tell you what, prove government isn't highly inefficient and grossly abusive of power? It can't be done, does that led to hate? Only by the ignorant who constantly fertilize the bad tree and continue to blame the bad fruit it produces for being bad.
Truman sought and won being head of that tree, what does that make him? Just bad fruit.
Love your neighbor or suffer government, or in a non religious tone, abuse the freedom of another, rob him, cheat him, spitefully abuse him, sleep with his wife, kill his children, prey on his parents and suffer government, a highly inefficient, grossly abusive of power entity born out of hate.
What's the hate level these days if it could be gauged? Has government grown with the hate? If it wasn't for government being so inefficient and abusive our hate would've ended us long ago. It's a necessary evil.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dav1965
If he was president still. With the 2 things going on in Israel and Russia.
Wake up long enough to take a bribe and then go back to sleep.0
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