Is it time to discuss Impeachment?
The second charge against Richard Nixon was his use of the IRS to bring political pressure on individual citizens.....about the same thing BO'd sdm has done....and the destruction of evidence. Is it time to begin the Impreachment process? Got my vote to start the discussion. Give the guy something to REALLY think about his last two years....your views?
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Impeachment is a joke....and will never happen..There is really no Democrat are republicans,only powerful people with the news media telling us how to think. I am convinced America The Great has declined to biblical times...The rise and fall of America is real...sad.Now we are looking for the "Golden Calf" 0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Don....you and pwillie are convinced that by not voting for Romney you did the right thing by indirectly giving us what we got now. And you use as your argument his 2nd Amendment views....which, even if you are correct, would have been blocked by the House. And if I remember correctly that during the campaign runup Romney, when asked about his 2nd Amendment views, said nothing about restricting our rights. In reality, the power to restrict our gun rights is at the state level rather than the national level....the DEM gov's wield more power now that does the POTUS. And in just about every other domain Romney would have been so much better than what we ended up with. Same with McCain in the previous election IMO. So you indirectly supported the election of what we got on the "thought" that what the alternative MIGHT DO was worse. Hard to believe but I know that you are convinced that you are right....hopefully you will see the light in 2016 and join us to elect a conservative POTUS and not indirectly support his opponent by wasting your vote. We need all conservative hands on deck to make sure that Hillary or someone like her who is a REAL threat is not in the top job. Let's link arms to make sure that does not happen...we have eight years of damage to the US by indirectly supporting non-conservative LIB progressives. They just love it when we fight among ourselves....we are smarter than that..........I hope!
I don't think you get it, Gary.
What I am saying is that the neo-cons in the House would not have obstructed a Romney plea for 'common sense' gun control.
My gut tells me that had Romney won, Sandy Hook would have resulted in a federally mandated Universal Background Check law. It has been the position of every mainstream candidate for decades.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
Gary, you are admittedly a Democrat, and everything you have posted here continues to support the Democrat agenda perfectly - ensure that progressives maintain their power; make sure that "moderate," Republicans who "reach across the aisle in bi-partisan fashion" continue to enact ever-increasing government control; ridicule and marginalize any who support conservative constitutional principles.
You continue to characterize the GOP establishment as being conservative, when nothing could be farther from the truth. You call conservatives the "fringe" and agree with the GOP's suppression of their ideas. You ignore the fact that the Tea Party, an organization that thinks outside the box, that encourages the conservative principles that the country was founded upon, is a valid entity.
You claim that neither John McCain nor Mitt Romney support gun control, when the fact is that both openly support banning semi-automatic rifles and standard-capacity magazines; both support elimination of personal sales of firearms between individuals without background checks for indirect registration with the federal government.
You call yourself a "blue dog" "conservative" Democrat. No sale. This is not 1965 and you are no Zell Miller.
rocklobster.....you are right, I am not a fringe right conservative who supports losing candidates and works indirectly to see the progressive LIB's are elected to national office. Right, I am not one of your guys who post here. What I am is a conservative WV DEM who loved Ronnie R and his idea to take 80% rather than indirectly supporting the other side by wasting votes. I want to see a conservative Senate and a conservative in the White House and will vote that way as I have done since 1976. I refuse to throw my vote away voting for some absurd candidate who has no chance. Don't put words in my mouth (or type) about gun control with McCain and Romney...heck, we don't know what they would have done as they were not elected....but we do know what your (with your indirect support) guy, the present POTUS tried to do and didn't get away with it. I get it that you guys on this thread have a litmus test and will only take 100% and no compromise....I get it...do you get that your position has meant that we got what we got in the White House right now? We need tow work together rather than banging each other to make sure that Hillary or someone like her does not get into the White House in 2016. Keep your eye on the prize![:)]
OK Gary, please tell us where you see enough is enough when giving in a little results in losing a lot. Reagan took automatic firearms out FOREVER with his compromise ban, Ronnie lost NOTHING you were stripped of rights, your great-great grandchildren lost. How far back do you have to go to say nope, not again, no more? How far towards socialism/Marxism will you go? Where is the line for you Gary?
HUH? Where did RR "..took automatic firearms out FOREVER...? Class III gives one the right for fully automatic...right? Or are a lot of my friends braking the law? Come on. And stop with the absurd "socialism/Marxism.." crap. Do you know that if you appeared in a meeting in my area you would be laughed out of the room? In most places in this country your views are about two steps near Attila the Hun. Let's stop with the loony statements and work together to get the real enemy out of power...the LIB DEM's....they are the foes we should be linking arms against, not each other.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Don....you and pwillie are convinced that by not voting for Romney you did the right thing by indirectly giving us what we got now. And you use as your argument his 2nd Amendment views....which, even if you are correct, would have been blocked by the House. And if I remember correctly that during the campaign runup Romney, when asked about his 2nd Amendment views, said nothing about restricting our rights. In reality, the power to restrict our gun rights is at the state level rather than the national level....the DEM gov's wield more power now that does the POTUS. And in just about every other domain Romney would have been so much better than what we ended up with. Same with McCain in the previous election IMO. So you indirectly supported the election of what we got on the "thought" that what the alternative MIGHT DO was worse. Hard to believe but I know that you are convinced that you are right....hopefully you will see the light in 2016 and join us to elect a conservative POTUS and not indirectly support his opponent by wasting your vote. We need all conservative hands on deck to make sure that Hillary or someone like her who is a REAL threat is not in the top job. Let's link arms to make sure that does not happen...we have eight years of damage to the US by indirectly supporting non-conservative LIB progressives. They just love it when we fight among ourselves....we are smarter than that..........I hope!
I don't think you get it, Gary.
What I am saying is that the neo-cons in the House would not have obstructed a Romney plea for 'common sense' gun control.
My gut tells me that had Romney won, Sandy Hook would have resulted in a federally mandated Universal Background Check law. It has been the position of every mainstream candidate for decades.
Don....what "I get" is what I got..........BO as president when many conservatives like yourself either stayed home or threw their votes away. You are guessing about Sandy Hook and what would have happened under a Romney presidency. And a bad guess, in my view, at that. The most we would have got on gun issues is what we got.....nothing. The other thing we would have (now my guess) had is a businessman running the government rather than a community organizer. A proven businessman at the helm vs. a man who has led nothing but a door knocking campaign to sign petitions for food stamps and such. Why can't we all just join hands against the LIB's who are the real foes and get them out of power, stating with the Senate in Nov and the White House in 2016 and get this country back on track rather than backbiting each other? Seems simple to me. We are our own worst enemy IMO...and they love it0 -
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by bpost
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
Gary, you are admittedly a Democrat, and everything you have posted here continues to support the Democrat agenda perfectly - ensure that progressives maintain their power; make sure that "moderate," Republicans who "reach across the aisle in bi-partisan fashion" continue to enact ever-increasing government control; ridicule and marginalize any who support conservative constitutional principles.
You continue to characterize the GOP establishment as being conservative, when nothing could be farther from the truth. You call conservatives the "fringe" and agree with the GOP's suppression of their ideas. You ignore the fact that the Tea Party, an organization that thinks outside the box, that encourages the conservative principles that the country was founded upon, is a valid entity.
You claim that neither John McCain nor Mitt Romney support gun control, when the fact is that both openly support banning semi-automatic rifles and standard-capacity magazines; both support elimination of personal sales of firearms between individuals without background checks for indirect registration with the federal government.
You call yourself a "blue dog" "conservative" Democrat. No sale. This is not 1965 and you are no Zell Miller.
rocklobster.....you are right, I am not a fringe right conservative who supports losing candidates and works indirectly to see the progressive LIB's are elected to national office. Right, I am not one of your guys who post here. What I am is a conservative WV DEM who loved Ronnie R and his idea to take 80% rather than indirectly supporting the other side by wasting votes. I want to see a conservative Senate and a conservative in the White House and will vote that way as I have done since 1976. I refuse to throw my vote away voting for some absurd candidate who has no chance. Don't put words in my mouth (or type) about gun control with McCain and Romney...heck, we don't know what they would have done as they were not elected....but we do know what your (with your indirect support) guy, the present POTUS tried to do and didn't get away with it. I get it that you guys on this thread have a litmus test and will only take 100% and no compromise....I get it...do you get that your position has meant that we got what we got in the White House right now? We need tow work together rather than banging each other to make sure that Hillary or someone like her does not get into the White House in 2016. Keep your eye on the prize![:)]
OK Gary, please tell us where you see enough is enough when giving in a little results in losing a lot. Reagan took automatic firearms out FOREVER with his compromise ban, Ronnie lost NOTHING you were stripped of rights, your great-great grandchildren lost. How far back do you have to go to say nope, not again, no more? How far towards socialism/Marxism will you go? Where is the line for you Gary?
HUH? Where did RR "..took automatic firearms out FOREVER...? Class III gives one the right for fully automatic...right? Or are a lot of my friends braking the law? Come on. And stop with the absurd "socialism/Marxism.." crap. Do you know that if you appeared in a meeting in my area you would be laughed out of the room? In most places in this country your views are about two steps near Attila the Hun. Let's stop with the loony statements and work together to get the real enemy out of power...the LIB DEM's....they are the foes we should be linking arms against, not each other.
The dem's slipped in the Hughes Amendment to the FOPA which ended any future production of class III weapons for private ownership. Only those weapons manufactured prior to 1986 are allowed. Reagan signed it into law, he didn't veto it or send it back to congress to have it fixed. So king Ronnie wasn't all that much of a defender of the 2nd Amendment.0 -
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)]
pwillie...actually, quite a few in Sussex Co DE and some up north in Kent Co. They tried to defeat a local referendum for a new ele school in my school district but we beat them back and got the school approved. They did kill a new school referendum in Milford for a much needed MS to replace the decaying old school. The TP in DE is run from upstate in Bear and has been successful on several fronts, usually fighting against needed school buildings and current op referenda but my area is pro-school and we have effective school leaders so we are able to beat them back. They are mostly very negative, anti-school, older white folks but in my area of DE the postive, pro-school folks outnumber them and they have little support. And I don't do Midol and sorry for some typo's as my pinkie was damaged in a recent surgery but the pt is helping...but I mipoop a key or two from time to time. Don't hold it against me[;)]0 -
Some folks have been discussing such a possibility since before he was elected, so why not pay it more lip service, huh? [:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)]
pwillie...actually, quite a few in Sussex Co DE and some up north in Kent Co. They tried to defeat a local referendum for a new ele school in my school district but we beat them back and got the school approved. They did kill a new school referendum in Milford for a much needed MS to replace the decaying old school. The TP in DE is run from upstate in Bear and has been successful on several fronts, usually fighting against needed school buildings and current op referenda but my area is pro-school and we have effective school leaders so we are able to beat them back. They are mostly very negative, anti-school, older white folks but in my area of DE the postive, pro-school folks outnumber them and they have little support. And I don't do Midol and sorry for some typo's as my pinkie was damaged in a recent surgery but the pt is helping...but I mipoop a key or two from time to time. Don't hold it against me[;)]
....so, old white folks are out and "Progressive Academia" is in?...Now Gary,which are you?0 -
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)]
pwillie...actually, quite a few in Sussex Co DE and some up north in Kent Co. They tried to defeat a local referendum for a new ele school in my school district but we beat them back and got the school approved. They did kill a new school referendum in Milford for a much needed MS to replace the decaying old school. The TP in DE is run from upstate in Bear and has been successful on several fronts, usually fighting against needed school buildings and current op referenda but my area is pro-school and we have effective school leaders so we are able to beat them back. They are mostly very negative, anti-school, older white folks but in my area of DE the postive, pro-school folks outnumber them and they have little support. And I don't do Midol and sorry for some typo's as my pinkie was damaged in a recent surgery but the pt is helping...but I mipoop a key or two from time to time. Don't hold it against me[;)]
....so, old white folks are out and "Progressive Academia" is in?...Now Gary,which are you?
pwillie... as you know, I am an "older white folk" (over 70) who is not progressive but conservative....your worst nightmare as you can't pidgenhole me!! The TP folks in my area fit that mold, sadly....just angry old white folks who vote against every tax increase, including school referenda for the needed updating and modernization of schools.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)]
pwillie...actually, quite a few in Sussex Co DE and some up north in Kent Co. They tried to defeat a local referendum for a new ele school in my school district but we beat them back and got the school approved. They did kill a new school referendum in Milford for a much needed MS to replace the decaying old school. The TP in DE is run from upstate in Bear and has been successful on several fronts, usually fighting against needed school buildings and current op referenda but my area is pro-school and we have effective school leaders so we are able to beat them back. They are mostly very negative, anti-school, older white folks but in my area of DE the postive, pro-school folks outnumber them and they have little support. And I don't do Midol and sorry for some typo's as my pinkie was damaged in a recent surgery but the pt is helping...but I mipoop a key or two from time to time. Don't hold it against me[;)]
....so, old white folks are out and "Progressive Academia" is in?...Now Gary,which are you?
pwillie... as you know, I am an "older white folk" (over 70) who is not progressive but conservative....your worst nightmare as you can't pidgenhole me!! The TP folks in my area fit that mold, sadly....just angry old white folks who vote against every tax increase, including school referenda for the needed updating and modernization of schools.
....needed updates...like a raise maybe? Air conditioning?....how much money does it take to teach liberalism in Colleges?[:o)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
....appeared in your area? Del...is your area.....how many TP members in your state?...watch your spelling Professor...LOL!...Take a midol and come back tomorrow...[:o)]
pwillie...actually, quite a few in Sussex Co DE and some up north in Kent Co. They tried to defeat a local referendum for a new ele school in my school district but we beat them back and got the school approved. They did kill a new school referendum in Milford for a much needed MS to replace the decaying old school. The TP in DE is run from upstate in Bear and has been successful on several fronts, usually fighting against needed school buildings and current op referenda but my area is pro-school and we have effective school leaders so we are able to beat them back. They are mostly very negative, anti-school, older white folks but in my area of DE the postive, pro-school folks outnumber them and they have little support. And I don't do Midol and sorry for some typo's as my pinkie was damaged in a recent surgery but the pt is helping...but I mipoop a key or two from time to time. Don't hold it against me[;)]
....so, old white folks are out and "Progressive Academia" is in?...Now Gary,which are you?
pwillie... as you know, I am an "older white folk" (over 70) who is not progressive but conservative....your worst nightmare as you can't pidgenhole me!! The TP folks in my area fit that mold, sadly....just angry old white folks who vote against every tax increase, including school referenda for the needed updating and modernization of schools.
....needed updates...like a raise maybe? Air conditioning?....how much money does it take to teach liberalism in Colleges?[:o)]
pwillie...again, you are showing your complete lack of knowledge about school referenda....either building schools or current op...and a "raise" is current op....which I did not mention...the TP fought us against building a new ele school....nothing to do with a "raise"..and they got beat bad as they have in most other things they have come out out of their holes to fight. But they were successful when they robo called in Milfold SD and turned out the vote against their (much needed) middle school and combined with the district's adm dumb moves and ignorance on how to pass a "bricks" referendum, they were able to defeat the school....and my two grandson's will suffer. But the young parents in the district (including my daughter) are working hard to bring it back and vote on it again in the fall. And, again, I ain't a "liberal" and I don't teach at a "college." Have a great 4th![:)]0 -
I do not see a golden calf in America's future..only a looming figure all black....which used to be called the Grim Reaper 0 -
You guys sound like old women. The thread started on impeachment and went to school stuff. But I digress.
There are 2 parts to impeachment. First the charges then the most important, conviction. Do you really think all these pigs feeding at the public trough will go on record as the evil ones kicking out the chosen one?0 -
"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."
In the Senate............FAT CHANCE.
But it would be interesting. I would really like to hear the rational of those voting not to impeach.0 -
I made the comment that the White House was no place for a black man before zero was elected. Everyone was on my case for that statement. Now, tell me how wrong I was. 0 -
Since my "Best" Friend Gary started this topic, I will let him rest and be secured in his thoughts about schools....I didn't like our public schools,so I sent my son to a private school. I worked many long hours to pay for his private education...money well spent when he got a free college education at the USNA... So,building schools doesn't necessarily mean a good education.[;)] 0 -
It's never going to happen. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by us55840
Sarah Palin was on FOX News yesterday and said there are over 20 impeachable actions to charge obama with.
I doubt either the dems or repubs have the gonads to even seriously discuss it.
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us55840....yes, I saw with interest her interview. More and more folks are talking about the possibility which I don't think is out of the realm. There is also an interesting book out by Andrew C. McCarthy on just this topic ("Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case for OBama's Impeachment.") Interesting read actually from the position of a ex-Fed prosecutor. So other from Palin to this guy are talking about it...which is the first step. It has happened in the past and can happen in the future if we have the political will to make it so.0 -
Bonehead in the house has already stated he disagrees with Palin's comments or the thought of impeachment. And we already know the senate isn't going to act so why all the blather? 0 -
I like Palin's idea, but the war monger's will fight it tooth and nail. 0
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