Mauser ID Questions...Pics Added...Links Anyway
No pics right now, but there will be later. For now, I would like to see whether anyone can ID these Mausers by their markings. Thanks.
#1. Mod. 98
44L19
svw MB
*20753 C (Serial number preceded by a 5-point star)
#2. Mod. 98
1944
1op (OR MAYBE) dol
GZ
#1. Mod. 98
44L19
svw MB
*20753 C (Serial number preceded by a 5-point star)
#2. Mod. 98
1944
1op (OR MAYBE) dol
GZ
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First one, my WAG is French. The French had control of the Mauser factory in Obendorf. For a short time after the war. They made rifles and pistols, from the parts on hand. After the Russians complained, the French had to quit.
Have to crack the Mauser book, to try and find the other one?0 -
The second one might have been made in the Czech factory, the krauts took over?
A couple of the codes are close, i.e., "dot", "dou".0 -
1945 Mod.98
byf45 FP - SN 135 135 135 Mauser Werke A.G.
Oberndorf-am-Neckar
bcd
45 749 1 Gustloff Werke
Weimar
Mod.98
bnz45 WaA623 623 Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G.
Steyr
Mod.98
dou45 SN WaA80 Waffen Werke Br?nn A.G.,
Bystrica
Mod.98
SVW45 FP - SN 135 135 Mauser Werke A.G.
Oberndorf-am-Neckar
Mod.98
SWP45 FP - SN 135\63 63 63 Waffen Werke Br?nn A.G.
Bystrica
Mod.98
SVW MB FP - SN 135 135 135 Mauser Werke A.G.
Oberndorf-am-Neckar (under French direction)
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1944 byf
44 FP - SN 135 135 Mauser Werke A.G.
Oberndorf-am-Neckar
ce
44 FP - SN 37 280 37 J.P. Sauer und Sohn Gewehrfabrik
Suhl
ar
44 FP - SN 135 135 26 Mauser Werke A.G.
Berlin-Borsigwalde
bcd
4 FP 749 1 749 Gustloff Werke
Weimar (first use of the single-digit year stamp)
bnz
44 77 Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G.
Steyr
bnz
4 FP - SN WaA623 WaA623 Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G.
Steyr
bnz
s
4 FP - SN 77 Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G.
Steyr / Concentration camp Mauthausen
s = "single-rune"
dou
44 SN WaA80 Waffen Werke Br?nn A.G.
Bystrica
bcd/bnz
4 1 Gustloff Werke/ Steyr-Daimler-Puch
Steyr
dot
1944 FP - SN 63 63 63 Waffen Werke Br?nn A.G.
Br?nn0 -
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=529284006
No serial number on receiver, but everywhere else. Odd.
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=529287764
Import mark shows country of origin is Germany.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=529284006
No serial number on receiver, but everywhere else. Odd.
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=529287764
Import mark shows country of origin is Germany.
First one is French. The stacking rod sticking out, from under the barrel. And the way the sling is fastened on the rear of the stock, with the metal staple, is the giveaway. Supposedly they were issued to all the ex wehrmachters, who joined the French Foreign Legion after the war. And were used mostly in Viet Nam. Till semiautos in 7.5 French, were in general use.
The second rifle with the big "X" on the barrel. Is likely a Russian/East Block? Post W W II rework. Some that they reworked were completely sanitized of all nazi markings. Others not so much. A lot of them were in long term storage. And started showing up from various countries that were in the Warsaw Pact. From the 90's on. The big "X" on the barrel is always the tell.
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SVW MB: A post-war build from Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf A.Neckar while under French occupation thru 1947 or so.
It's now a mixmaster parts gun, as it wears an early WW2 German K98k flat butt walnut stock (which were dropped in favor of laminated beech by 1939-1940). Collector value has been greatly reduced.
The sling is Yugoslav, & the Legion Etrangere anecdote is pure speculation.
dot 44: Wartime-made at CZ Bruenn (Brno), then captured by Russians. This is a typical RC whose stock has been stripped of the Russkie-applied shellac & therefore "saved" by Bubba.
Regarding the "X": If & when applied, an "X" was stamped into the receiver ring only, but not all RC's have it. NEVER were they marked upon the barrel ONLY (by either the Russkies or Yugos).
Those K98k reworks which are completely scrubbed of all Nazi markings tended to spend time in post-war Romania, whereas if only the tiny swastica in beschusstempel (firing proof) is neatly peened-out: indicates postwar ownership/use by Serbs.
The unserialed receiver is nothing uncommon for a late dot or bcd.
The sling it now wears is post-war Norwegian.0 -
Nice write up bO400879. 0
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