Savage 219 Hornet Piercing primers
I have a Savage M219 in 22 Hornet caliber. It pierces primers when fired almost 100% of the time. What's likely the cause? Long firing pin, bad spring, headspace? Have any of you had this problem with a Savage 219 and how did you solve it? T%hanks for any suggestions.
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Are these factory loaded ammo or Hand loads [?]If hand loads are you sure that you are using Rifle primers Not pistol primers also Different brands have different cup thickness and aome are harder also get some primers made for Loading Military 223 They have stronger primer cups 0 -
I'd consider the load first if they are reloads. If its factory ammo then I'd be looking at the firing pin. Perhaps the nose is conical instead of ball shaped. It might be a homemade replacement.
Added I think it should only stick out about 0.040" to 0.050"0 -
The ammo is factory Winchester Super X. I had fired some before in an H&R single shot and it did fine. I think it is probably the gun. I compared firing pins on the two guns and the Savage 219's appears larger, protrudes more, and the hole surrounding the firing pin looks like it could benefit from bushing. Thanks for your replies. 0 -
It is the Winchester ammo[xx(]
I have the same issue with my 100% factory original Winchester Model 43. I bought 3 boxes of Winchester ammo a few years ago, and shot 1 full box of it right after I purchased the ammo... 17 pierced primers[V] out of 50. When I shoot factory Remington or Hornady ammo, not a single pierced primer (and I have shot a few thousand of them). This past July out in Cody, I shot another box of the Winchester ammo... and you guessed it, more pierced primers, and 2 split cases. The Winchester 22 Hornet ammo is pure fecal matter[:(!]0 -
Thanks, Bert, for the info on the ammo. I'll try a different brand tomorrow. The Winchester ammo I used is several years old. Speaking of Winchester ammo, a few years ago they came out with a low priced Power Max bonded ammo in a bright red box with a deer skull. I bought several boxes for my .270.
Every single round had the primers blow out. After 6 shots I caught the problem and sent the ammo to Winchester. Weeks later I got a letter telling me that the ammo was within specs. However, they kept the ammo and sent me a coupon for replacement ammo. I bought regular Winchester power point and it worked fine.0 -
I tried some Hornady Hornet ammo. Same problem. A small disc slightly larger in diameter than the firing pin is cut out upon firing. It usually sticks at the end of the firing pin on the action face. The firing pin is nicely rounded. I think that either the pin is too long, the hole around it too large, or maybe the pin isn't retracting enough at ignition. Any suggestions or recommendation of a gunsmith to do a repair? 0 -
Can you post pictures of the disrupted primer? 0 -
One other thing that should be taken into consideration is the
neck clearance. If there is insufficient clearance between the chamber and cartridge neck..pierced primer every time.0 -
Is the frame marked 219 or just the barrel? The same gun was made ca 1940s-50s as the 220 shotgun, which had a larger diameter firing pin and aperture (don't confuse with the current bolt action 220) 0 -
First and easiest thing to do is to check firing pin protrusion for being too long.
If it's longer than .050-.060 it needs to be shortened.
If you have a 219 barrel on a shotgun action, it is likely the firing pin diameter is too large in diameter for high pressure ammo and needs to be reduced in diameter along with bushing the firing pin hole. That's a gunsmith job.0
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