Victor 22 Rifle

victorj19

July 23, 2015 17:50

So here's the story. Bought yet another 22 rim fire. Really didn't need another 22. But hey, it has my name on it. It is a single shot, says "Made in Germany", "CAL.-.22" and sn: 11479. On the top of the receiver and over the chamber "VICTOR". The barrel is about 24". LOL is about 10.5 to 11". There is no but plate and there are saw blade marks leading me to believe the stock was cut at some point. The stock is walnut and has a finger groove.

Does anyone have any information on this rifle, especially whether this is a s,l, or lr?

Thanks,

Jim

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  dotcom_guy30

  July 25, 2015 15:50

  Some pics would help

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  babun

  July 25, 2015 16:34

  Does it say "Victor Tr?lzsch in N?rnberg" ??

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  rufe-snow

  July 25, 2015 17:14

  The Germans were very thorough in proving their guns. Your.22 should be marked. If nothing is visible externally? Separate stock from receiver, and check below the wood line.
  
  In addition to standard German proofs. Possibly would have proof house, and date of manufacture. If made post 1945.

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  victorj19

  August 04, 2015 14:20

  quote:Originally posted by victorj19
  So here's the story. Bought yet another 22 rim fire. Really didn't need another 22. But hey, it has my name on it. It is a single shot, says "Made in Germany", "CAL.-.22" and sn: 11479. On the top of the receiver and over the chamber "VICTOR". The barrel is about 24". LOL is about 10.5 to 11". There is no but plate and there are saw blade marks leading me to believe the stock was cut at some point. The stock is walnut and has a finger groove.
  
  Does anyone have any information on this rifle, especially whether this is a s,l, or lr?
  
  Sorry it's been so long to get back to this topic.
  
  It occurred to me that the inscription "Made in Germany" is in English and the rifle was probably made for export. There are crude looking crowns over a B and a U, which seem to also indicate that it was made for export . The extractor system is the same as found on a Anschutz JGA Karabiner, the bolts are similar with a straight bolt (knurled knob on the Victor) and the sights are earlier than that on the JGA I found pictures of ( https://www.google.com/search?q=anschutz+karabiner&biw=1138&bih=536&tbm=isch&imgil=mTm1QfkRXhKKeM%3A%3BffS3q_8AfsVKmM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.{elsewhere}%252Fbuy%252F10347434&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mTm1QfkRXhKKeM%3A%2CffS3q_8AfsVKmM%2C_&usg=__c3XbZ39S9KSiB23gKO3r9IwqZ2A=&ved=0CCcQyjdqFQoTCP_-54u5kMcCFcFsPgodMd8AGw&ei=kjjBVf_tIMHZ-QGxvoPYAQ#imgdii=YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:;YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:;mTm1QfkRXhKKeM:&imgrc=YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:&usg=__c3XbZ39S9KSiB23gKO3r9IwqZ2A= ) That's a long link! Hope it works.
  
  My search on earlier versions of the Karabiner and old Anchutz 22s went no where.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jim

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  rufe-snow

  August 04, 2015 16:35

  quote:Originally posted by victorj19

  Originally posted by victorj19
  So here's the story. Bought yet another 22 rim fire. Really didn't need another 22. But hey, it has my name on it. It is a single shot, says "Made in Germany", "CAL.-.22" and sn: 11479. On the top of the receiver and over the chamber "VICTOR". The barrel is about 24". LOL is about 10.5 to 11". There is no but plate and there are saw blade marks leading me to believe the stock was cut at some point. The stock is walnut and has a finger groove.
  
  Does anyone have any information on this rifle, especially whether this is a s,l, or lr?
  
  Sorry it's been so long to get back to this topic.
  
  It occurred to me that the inscription "Made in Germany" is in English and the rifle was probably made for export. There are crude looking crowns over a B and a U, which seem to also indicate that it was made for export . The extractor system is the same as found on a Anschutz JGA Karabiner, the bolts are similar with a straight bolt (knurled knob on the Victor) and the sights are earlier than that on the JGA I found pictures of ( https://www.google.com/search?q=anschutz+karabiner&biw=1138&bih=536&tbm=isch&imgil=mTm1QfkRXhKKeM%3A%3BffS3q_8AfsVKmM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.{elsewhere}%252Fbuy%252F10347434&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mTm1QfkRXhKKeM%3A%2CffS3q_8AfsVKmM%2C_&usg=__c3XbZ39S9KSiB23gKO3r9IwqZ2A=&ved=0CCcQyjdqFQoTCP_-54u5kMcCFcFsPgodMd8AGw&ei=kjjBVf_tIMHZ-QGxvoPYAQ#imgdii=YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:;YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:;mTm1QfkRXhKKeM:&imgrc=YIO6WzEmGLnyRM:&usg=__c3XbZ39S9KSiB23gKO3r9IwqZ2A= ) That's a long link! Hope it works.
  
  My search on earlier versions of the Karabiner and old Anchutz 22s went no where.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jim
  
  
  
  
  
  "Crown over B" and "Crown over U". Are old Proof Marks that were last used in 1939. This means that it's quite a bit older, than first thought.
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  Are their any other markings or numbers near the "Crown B" or "Crown U", Proof Marks?
  
  
  
  
  
  EDIT #1,
  
  
  5.4 mm is the proof mark, indicating bore diameter. One of their proofing requirements. Since there isn't date, that was required from the mid 20's on. It might date to the early 20's?

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  victorj19

  August 04, 2015 20:54

  RufeSnow,
  You were right, there is more. It was covered by dried grease that looked like minor pitting on the barrel. With a 17x loop it looked different. Scrapped the grease off with a finger nail and found the same proof marks and "5,4 mm". There is a flat spring which is attached to the receiver by a screw under the chamber. The trigger assembly is attached to the other under of the spring. It docks on 2op@ening and a know rotated a bit to a fire position.

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