High Standard Deringer
I've been out of action for awhile and saw the prices on these guns today. WOW! I know the prices on all guns are high but I think I paid $99.00 for the one I had. Bought it new in the 1970s.
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Interesting. 4 full pages of completed auctions only 5 actually sold from like $150 on up. I gave the one I had away. 0 -
Charlie's right. Most asking prices are bunk. They made special issue H-S Derringers, that were engraved and plated. Maybe one of these would command the sky high prices?
I sold mine, for $200 years ago. Glad to get rid of it. Was really fussy ammo wise. Only reliable with Federal ammo. It seemed to me that the priming compound, in the Federal .22 mags was more sensitive.
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I have shot rabbits with a Keltec PMR 30. (CCI, 30 grain JHP's). With disappointing results. Even at 1500+ FPS they don't expand. Went back to Winchester, .22LR, 555 H-P's.
Don't see any expansion from a 2" barrel Derringer. Only thing that will increase lethality. Would be the unstable bullet tumbling, after hitting flesh.0 -
Around my area, I see them selling for around $200-$250 in mostly 22 magnum caliber. The only problems I've had is that the bullets usually tumble as they fail to stabilize for some reason. Sometimes it's only one barrel but sometimes both barrels do it. I occasionally carry 1 or 2 of these concealed, after I remove the grip panels. They fit well in jeans pockets. 0 -
I used to have one in .22 mag, & it was reliable & (relatively) accurate. Great CCW, especially in a Safariland wallet holster; of course, it had to be removed from the holster to fire.
Nice thing about using it for personal defense: with the foot-long flame & tremendous muzzle blast, you really don't have to hit the perp with a bullet.
Some actually sell in the $400-500 range, but only if near mint & with the original box. Factory nickel is especially desirable.
Neal
EDIT: The .22 mag cartridge was designed for shooting small game with a rifle; the slow burning powder needs a long barrel in order to develop the velocity that you need for expansion. Theoretically, in a small gun, the .38 spec is a far better round for personal defense. However, S&W has been selling J-frame revolvers in .22 mag for 50 years, & the demand for them has never been met.0 -
I have owned 4 of them, all in 22mag though I had an additional 22lr barrel assembly that I never mounted. They do sell for $250 and up if in very nice shape and I have one of the chromed presentation ones in the display box, along with a couple standards. I used to carry it in a shoot thru holster that came with it when I bought it in the 80s. Back pocket "wallet" to hand to the mugger. It was stolen by the police. Long story but got pulled over for BS (being in a known drug area though I bought lunch which I had with me..cops stole that too) and they ended up searching me and the car. In the trunk (this was before CCW days) was my briefcase with the gun in the holster inside. The officer arrested me for carrying conceled and wrote that I had it in my hand when pulled over. Of course, nothing made sense, as no mention of the gun was made before the search but they took it. It disappeared from evidence of course. 6 officers of that dept. (Opa-Locka FL) are now in prison for a boatload of felonies. Thats my fondness for this little gun as it caused me so much trouble. The case was tossed out by the way as none of the "facts" even lined up. 0 -
Talk about the right place to look. I was getting ready to ask about the 22 mag. as a self-defense round in a short barrel pistol since I know how the hollow point works on small game out of a rifle. With the high velocity and small diameter does it expand at short range to be effective? I agree with the flame and recoil, looks sort of like you unleashed a LAWS. 0 -
Carried one for many years, and fortunately never had to use it. My main intent was a true last resort scenario; one in which the barrels would likely have been in contact with an assailant, and all that aforementioned muzzle flash would have occurred in the dark recesses of someone's abdomen. Think balloon and rapid over inflation ... 0 -
I love these little guys! Always fun to shoot at the range with the lights off, it shoots out a flame the size of a basketball, and loud too! I had a feeling they were going to go up in value, I started scooping them up about 8 years ago.
I also have one of the 1 of 500 special editions in stainless steel, I've only seen one so far, mine is it!0 -
Your "stainless derringer" is probably an electroless nickel plated Derringer. High Standard in Connecticut never made a stainless steel derringer. The electorless nickel derringers were not in a special series and have a "D" prefix on the serial number.
The only "500 derringer" special edition was the silver plated derringer which had a "SP" serial number prefix. There were actually 501 of these as the serial numbers began at 0 and finished at 500.
Tell me the serial number and I can probably tell the ship date and what it really was.0
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