Does it Look Like A Ringed Barrel to You?
Asked a seller (100% A+ FB on GB) to check a 22 LR rifle barrel's rifling by pushing an oily patch through barrel from chamber to muzzle and to also look through both barrel via chamber and muzzle ends. Tells me rifling is perfect. Win Rifle and when it arrives, I push oily patch through barrel, and patch takes a big jump - UUTOO!? I see a big ring in barrel near the chamber. I explain the problem and email photos of the ringed barrel to the seller. Seller is in denial, doesn't believe it, my experience is criticized, I'm given all sorts of advice, etc. To view photos, please click on photobucket link to photos.
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Tight patches don't lie. Looks like some anomaly near the chamber. 0 -
1),What were the terms of the auction? Did you have a approval period? Or was this rifle sold, on a "as is/no returns" basis?
2),If the seller doesn't want to take the rifle back, or make a monetary adjustment. Your recourse, would be based on the terms of the auction. See #1, above.0 -
Very hard to tell on my computer but something looks looks none standard Tight patch is how I determine 22LR damage bore. send back but with customer signature required so he will not scam you twice claiming never received item back. 0 -
If you run your fingers over the barrel with a light "pinch" grip you may be able to feel a swelling on the barrel over the area of concern. If that is there as well you will need to look at the terms of the transaction to determine if you have recourse. 0 -
I read the auction conditions and didn't see any option for returning the rifle. The rifle was a reissued Winchester 52B Sporter 22 LR rifle in really good condition except for the barrel ring and I still wanted the rifle and not the hassle of going through the FFL and USPS to return the rifle. So seller and I made a price adjustment based on my talking to a gunsmith (Mr. Steve Cline) about relining the barrel and its cost. Seller wanted to meet me half way on the cost so I agreed on the cost split to basically conclude the matter. You would have had to experience first hand all the emails from the seller to realize this was the best approach to finalize the matter. I could easily feel the ring in the rifling with a tight oily patch, see it from the chamber end, but externally on the barrel you couldn't see it or feel it by pinching the barrel.
I'll consider this rifle a "personal project gun" and have the rifle rebarreled with a Shilen Match Select barrel. And I'll wait to see if the seller's check is okay before posting any feedback on him.
Thank You for all Your Inputs0 -
quote:Originally posted by spirits
I read the auction conditions and didn't see any option for returning the rifle. The rifle was a reissued Winchester 52B Sporter 22 LR rifle in really good condition except for the barrel ring and I still wanted the rifle and not the hassle of going through the FFL and USPS to return the rifle. So seller and I made a price adjustment based on my talking to a gunsmith (Mr. Steve Cline) about relining the barrel and its cost. Seller wanted to meet me half way on the cost so I agreed on the cost split to basically conclude the matter. You would have had to experience first hand all the emails from the seller to realize this was the best approach to finalize the matter. I could easily feel the ring in the rifling with a tight oily patch, see it from the chamber end, but externally on the barrel you couldn't see it or feel it by pinching the barrel.
I'll consider this rifle a "personal project gun" and have the rifle rebarreled with a Shilen Match Select barrel. And I'll wait to see if the seller's check is okay before posting any feedback on him.
Thank You for all Your Inputs
IMHO, you should have at least shot it. Before rebarreling. I haven't had any experience, with high class .22 target rifles like the 52. But have shot centerfire rifles, with bores like sewer pipes. With jacketed ammo, they have shot surprisingly well.0 -
I may be crazy, but that doesn't look like a ringed barrel to me.
Your pics to me show a raised ring, not the common stretched gap.
Place a straight edge on the outside of the barrel, now it may be tapered, but you should still see opposite bungle or indented ring, from what the inside looks like.
Could that be something stuck in the barrel then hammer forged by the next bullets shot??
Typical ringed barrel.
most .22's shoot just fine with those barrels.0 -
I am really doubting a "ringed" barrel.
That is a pretty thick barrel, modern steel, and a fairly new rifle.
It doesn't add up.0 -
Definitely shoot the thing before you tear into it. 0 -
Visible ring in the bore, patch "jumps."
Sounds like it was fired with an obstruction like a stuck bullet from a "squib" or a cleaning patch.
It might still shoot well with the ring that far to the rear, plenty of rifling left after the jump. Maybe. But if you bought it as Excellent, it isn't.0
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