mallorysdad re: .257 Mannlicher
I don't want to hijack the earlier thread, either, so I started this one.
I am curious about your reference to your rifle (carbine?) as a 1952 MC. Is your rifle actually marked "1952 MC"? Now, most of my information comes from the old Stoeger's catalogs and my own rifles. My post-war Mannlicher Schoenauers all have scopes mounted so I can't read the model designations on all of them and that includes my model 1952. But my 1950 is marked "Mod. 1950" the 1956, "Mod. 1956", the two MCA's that I can read are marked "Mod. MCA". There is a model MC. It has the strange dished cheek-piece like my 1956 and is cataloged by Stoeger as model 1960 MC and there is also a 1952 GK with the stock like the 1950-52. I have reason to believe those would have been marked on the receiver ring "Mod. MC" and "Mod. GK". Those were made after the MCA came along in 1961 and were for people who preferred the earlier stocks. I am sure there were outside-of-catalog-specs rifles sold so a lot of things are possible. One of my MCA's is a .308 rifle with a 63 date and has no Stoeger marking on the floor plate. The catalog lists .308 as only available in the carbine. My guess is that it was purchased probably at a PX in Germany by a serviceman and brought back.
I am curious about your reference to your rifle (carbine?) as a 1952 MC. Is your rifle actually marked "1952 MC"? Now, most of my information comes from the old Stoeger's catalogs and my own rifles. My post-war Mannlicher Schoenauers all have scopes mounted so I can't read the model designations on all of them and that includes my model 1952. But my 1950 is marked "Mod. 1950" the 1956, "Mod. 1956", the two MCA's that I can read are marked "Mod. MCA". There is a model MC. It has the strange dished cheek-piece like my 1956 and is cataloged by Stoeger as model 1960 MC and there is also a 1952 GK with the stock like the 1950-52. I have reason to believe those would have been marked on the receiver ring "Mod. MC" and "Mod. GK". Those were made after the MCA came along in 1961 and were for people who preferred the earlier stocks. I am sure there were outside-of-catalog-specs rifles sold so a lot of things are possible. One of my MCA's is a .308 rifle with a 63 date and has no Stoeger marking on the floor plate. The catalog lists .308 as only available in the carbine. My guess is that it was purchased probably at a PX in Germany by a serviceman and brought back.
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I have a MCA rifle in 308 (i.e., MCA rifle (or short stock) with ~ 24 inch barrel) but when I took the stock off the stock's serial number did not match the receiver's serial number. I assume it is a parts rifle. According to Gun Digest 1997 p. 63 the 308 was introduced in 1953 and ended in 1969. I believe MC meant "Monte Carlo" and MCA meant "Monte Carlo American? - I may be wrong here". I remember the dished out cheek pieces because I being a left handed shooter couldn't adjust to that stock style whereas the MCA stocks fit me much better. 0 -
I was always under the impression that MC stood for Mannlicher Carbine. mine has the shorter barrel and full length stock. I'll check but it seems the only model number is 1952 on mine. I've never encounter another one to compare it to. I'm sure someone on here has better knowledge of it then I. 0 -
See auction #492056449: picture 10.
EDIT: I note also that the barrel/receiver date on the rifle in the above auction appears to be "59" so it seems model MC's were built before 1961.0 -
OK you made me get up and go look. lol
Mine just has 1952 no MC it was made in 1953 according to the barrel stamp
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I've seen several with the regular short stock and most in 270 and 30-06. But in 30 years have not run across another full stock in factory .257 Roberts. I would love to know how many were made. 0 -
Here's a few pages from Stoeger's Shooter's Bible 1961 Giant Edition #52. I especially bought this one because of the Engraved MS on the cover. Not the most clear photos (i.e., ISO jpegs) for your review - just click on the link here - yeah I still use photobucket - and please don't try to read the small print because it is all unreadable.
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quote:Originally posted by mallorysdad
I've seen several with the regular short stock and most in 270 and 30-06. But in 30 years have not run across another full stock in factory .257 Roberts. I would love to know how many were made.
The Blue Book assigns a 35% premium to the 257 Roberts and I've read on the MS site that the clambering was discontinued in 1960. I believe the "MC" stands for Monte Carlo as in the stock design. One of the reasons I like the 52 version is that I shoot lefty and the later MC stock isn't comfortable.
The Williams side mount looks very nice on your rifle. Good to see the lower rings work. Maybe I'll have to buy another MS for the Jaeger side mount I bought in addition to the Williams I already have.0 -
I've owned two Mannlicher Schoenauer carbines in 257 Roberts, both 1952 models and a friend has a 1956 carbine. 0 -
Can anyone advise as to whether the MS Model 1952 comes factory drilled & tapped for a sidemount? That Williams makes a side mount specifically for the rifle makes me think (hope) yes, but I don't know for certain. 0 -
One last question before I stop beating this poor horse. Value? I see folks asking (but not getting) astronomical prices for 1956 Carbines in common calibers.
What is a 1952 Carbine in .257 Rob. in average condition worth?
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