Question about Remington-Keene rifles
The American Rifleman Magazine ran a story about the Remington-Keene rifles back in 1972, and with a Deluxe Sporting model on its cover. In the story, the 1878 experimental R-K came to a full cock on closing the bolt, however, the story has it that this feature was dropped on later models, which would require that after the bolt is closed, the hammer-type cocking lever must be pulled back from half cock to full cock. Philip Sharpe in his book "The Rifle in America" states that same thing about the rifle coming to half cock on closing the bolt, too. Is this true?
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I don't have one to check, but Flayderman says: "the Keene has an outside visible hammer; with bolt closed the hammer was manually cocked."
Do you think three reputable sources were making it up?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
I don't have one to check, but Flayderman says: "the Keene has an outside visible hammer; with bolt closed the hammer was manually cocked."
Do you think three reputable sources were making it up?
Thank you for the input, and the question. No, I do not think that the information in the reference material is made up as I also have excerpts of the catalog about them for 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1885, &1886, but so little is known about them I'm hoping to find out more information to this end. For example, it is unknown why the 1878 model full cock feature upon closing the bolt was dropped in the first commercially produced model of 1880. Maybe it was for safety reasons, but whatever the case might have been, it does appear that one reson for its rather quick demise was due to it not being a self-cocker.0 -
quote:Originally posted by babun
Half cocked it is.
http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt Action Rifles/Remington-Keene/Remington-Keene Military Rifle.html
That is certainly what literature tells us, but the fact is that little of the literature about them has survived.
Also note the wording in that the arm is "always LEFT" at half cock!?!0 -
quote:Originally posted by babun
Half cocked it is.
http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt Action Rifles/Remington-Keene/Remington-Keene Military Rifle.html
Bob, thanks for this link. It has some information in it that the early catalogs and some other references do not have. It's much appreciated.
Thanks to Hawke Carse as well!0 -
OT Perhaps.
I particularly like the way the Winchester Single Shot ("highwall") comes to full cock when the action is operated. This obsoletes all other exposed hammer single shots in my eye.
The Winder Musket went to half cock, probably to protect the cadets learning to shoot with it. I understand some of the last sporting models were this way. The Uberti reproductions do too. Too bad.0
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