Response to Locked Topic Barrel Ring
I was only able to take clear-enough digital pictures of the ring looking from the chamber end in natural light with the rifle's stock mounted in a padded vise. So I only got the left side and right side of the ring in the barrel's rifling. The shadow cast on the ring is due to the camera flash and it does look like a raised ridge. Granted the digital pictures don't show enough detail to determine the ring's shape (i.e., is the ring a depression or araised ridge). To try and answer the last query, I made a long feeler gauge out of thin rod stock with a sharp hook. The feeler bumps around at the ring but the bumpy motion is so slight that it is difficult to feel out the ring's shape. Last thing I tried was a fiber optic bore light and from this I see that the ring's shape from the chamber end is a depression. All of which can be seen clearly as I push the optic fiber around.
In conclusion, the ring felt with the feeler was not as dramatic as the ring felt using the tight oily patch pushed through the barrel; and the fiber optic bore light showed the ring to be a depression. Using the tight oily patch pushed through the barrel and a caliper I determined that the ring is mostly a depression as determined by friction (i.e., patch jumps) as the patch is pushed back and forth about the ring. The ring begins at approximately 3.5 inches from the chamber and extends for approximately 0.5 inches. I'm told by the seller that the ring is a step in the chamber because his gunsmith saw the pictures of the ring and told him it was a step in the chamber. All I can say is "Some Chamber - Some Gunsmith".
In conclusion, the ring felt with the feeler was not as dramatic as the ring felt using the tight oily patch pushed through the barrel; and the fiber optic bore light showed the ring to be a depression. Using the tight oily patch pushed through the barrel and a caliper I determined that the ring is mostly a depression as determined by friction (i.e., patch jumps) as the patch is pushed back and forth about the ring. The ring begins at approximately 3.5 inches from the chamber and extends for approximately 0.5 inches. I'm told by the seller that the ring is a step in the chamber because his gunsmith saw the pictures of the ring and told him it was a step in the chamber. All I can say is "Some Chamber - Some Gunsmith".
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Well I would put it on paper and see how good it shoots before I did anything else.
A liner would be a good option. I would be inclined to try a Redman one installed under tension if it were mine.
"One ragged hole" if you shoot enough ammo the side of a barn can be ...
Added: I'm right there with you. You ask for a tight patch inspection and you got one done by a clueless person. If preformed at the honest best of their woefully lacking ability is it fraud? I don't like buying shooting things unless I can hold it in my hands first.
When I worked at the gun store, I could take the used stuff for a test fire. Some of the rifles I worked up a load. Used hunting rifles sell better if an actual target is hanging on the tag.0 -
When I received the rifle I talked to my gunsmith Mr. Steve Cline; and he said the same thing about the accuracy not being affected. He also builds Ruger Mk IIs for competitors and told me the following story. His customer ringed the barrel during a competition which he won and only found out about his ringed barrel afterwards. Steve asked the customer if the ringed barrel affected the pistol's accuracy and the customer said, No it doesn't but I'm always thinking about it. So in the case, the ringed barrel was affecting him psychologically and Steve had to replace the barrel.
Now as far as this rifle is concerned, 1) I bought the rifle from the seller with the mutual understanding and believing the seller had checked the rifle for a ringed barrel, and 2) I don't want to shoot the rifle because I feel I'll next be accused by the seller of causing the damage, and 3) I've already been accused of slandering his rifle - Seems Almost Comical.0 -
if your transaction is done and it's now registered in your name with no return then you may as well see how good of a shooter it is before you make any other decisions, it may not effect the accuracy at all and you very well may like how well it does shoot. 0 -
I've a fair amount of experience with rimfires, and I don't think that barrel ring is going to effect accuracy much, if at all. If it were near the muzzle I'd be a bit more concerned, but that close to the chamber, it's not going to hurt a thing. 0 -
Included link to ringed barrel again - previous photos of ringed barrel were deleted cleaning up photobucket albums - my mistake.
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I'll shoot the rifle with ringed barrel and determine its accuracy before doing anything.
Thanks Again for All Your Good Questions and Advice0
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