Front Sight Specifications
I believe I have a 1916 edition 1894 Eastern Carbine. I also believe I have the correct folding ladder rear sight. I do not think I have the correct front sight. It is a Marbles Gold Dot but it is too tall to match the rear sight, POI is 4" high of POA at 25 yds, 8" high at 50 yds, can't hit the target at 100 yds because of the 50 yd berm.
The question is what is the correct front sight height and measurement reference points (top of barrel to top of gold dot or centerline of the barrel to middle of the gold dot, etc)for the 1916 era carbine?
I believe my option is to punch the front sight blade pin, mill the bottom of the blade x 0.001", align/mark/drill new pin hole in blade and reinstall. I'd like to get it just right so I can use the rear ladder sight folded down for close range and only have to use the ladder up for long range (as designed). However, if I take too much off then I'll have to use the ladder up for everything.
I suppose I could just use basic geometry to figure out how much to take off but I want to understand the root cause before I make any modifications. I want to know what the original sight specs were as a sanity check for what dimensions I end up with doing it by trial and error.
The question is what is the correct front sight height and measurement reference points (top of barrel to top of gold dot or centerline of the barrel to middle of the gold dot, etc)for the 1916 era carbine?
I believe my option is to punch the front sight blade pin, mill the bottom of the blade x 0.001", align/mark/drill new pin hole in blade and reinstall. I'd like to get it just right so I can use the rear ladder sight folded down for close range and only have to use the ladder up for long range (as designed). However, if I take too much off then I'll have to use the ladder up for everything.
I suppose I could just use basic geometry to figure out how much to take off but I want to understand the root cause before I make any modifications. I want to know what the original sight specs were as a sanity check for what dimensions I end up with doing it by trial and error.
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If you are shooting high, you need a taller front sight, not shorter. 0 -
https://www.ameriglo.net/sights/calculator
To me its just a tool to see sight changes.0 -
According to my copy of "Old Gunsights", a 1894 carbine uses a Lyman #31W with gold bead, .260" high. 0 -
Gentlemen,
Yes, I need a taller front sight not shorter, my error.
The front sight is a brazed on blade slot base, no dovetail, so height reference needs to be either the height of the blade from the bottom of the slot or the total slot base and blade height from the top of the barrel.
Lyman #31W is a dovetail base which cannot be used on this carbine. The existing sight is a Marbles Sheard 1/16" wide with a height from the top of the barrel to the top of the bead of 0.495"
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One important piece of information that has not yet been mentioned... is which specific cartridge your 1916 vintage Model 1894 SRC is chambered for. Winchester used different height front sights based on the specific cartridge, i.e. a 38-55 did not have the same height front sight as the 30 WCF. 0 -
Very good point Bert. It is a 30 WCF carbine.
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I've tried twice now to insert photos of the existing sight, still no luck.0
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