Pre 64 Model 70 Questions
I bought a nice Pre 64 Model 70 Winchester in 30-06 caliber today. I was taking it apart to give it a through cleaning. After removing the screws at the forend at the rear sight, the floorplate and trigger guard, I tried to remove the stock but it was so tight I couldn't get it to budge even a little. This one was made in 1961 and judging by the condition,about 98%,I don't think the stock has ever been off, nor the gun fired more than a box of shells in the past 54 years. I've never seen such a precise wood to metal fit on any other bolt gun. Any suggestions on how to remove the stock or should I just leave it alone? There was no signs of rust anywhere. The stock has lost a few flakes of varnish at the pistol grip and at the toe of the stock. Bluing is about 98% with wear only on the edges of the floorplate. The scope mount holes still have the filler screws; I don't think they have ever been out. The sling swivels are 1 inch non-detachable type. Thanks for any suggestions.
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There are 3 action screws in the old M70's. Plus the fore end screw. I'm not sure what you mean by "the front sight". With a tight fitting barreled action, I usually insert the bolt and, with the bolt all the way back, I gently rock (wiggle) the barrel and then the bolt alternately up and down until it loosens up enough to come out of the stock.
EDIT: Reading that over, it doesn't sound very clear. With the screws out, rest the rifle upright across your lap and pressing down on the stock with your thumb and index finger and, at the same time, lifting up the bolt and then the barrel with your other fingers will usually rock the barreled action up out of the stock. Good luck and congrats on your new (to you) rifle.
I bought one of those old .30/06 M70's a few years ago at a local gun shop. It had belonged to the local barber who died quite a while ago. The serial # suggests a 1952 build. It had a Weaver KV scope with post reticule mounted in period Redfield rings and base. The top of the post measures 4" across at 100 yds and seems like a rather crude aiming system. But with 180 gr Sierra BT and 57 gr of IMR4831, 5-shot groups average a little over 1 inch. Those old 70's will still shoot!0 -
I should have said "rear sight" and have corrected my original post. Thanks for your reply. 0 -
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33, 35, 44, and 30 I think. A soft clean rubber mallet. Dried oil is like glue. Proper fitting screwdrivers are a must.0 -
You have all (4) screws you needed to remove so it doesn't sound like a glassed into wood barreled receiver which is very good.
Take a wood dowel rod which will insert snugly into the receiver where the bolt would go cut to some appropriate length so you can lift the barreled receiver from the receiver end by hand and tap the barrel near the fore end at the same time. That usually works just do it slowly a little lifting at a time don't force it.0 -
Screw the screws back in halfway. Tap screws with mallet. 0 -
Thanks to everyone for your help. I finally got the stock off. It had been glass bedded at some time and that contributed to the tight fit. The rifle is now clean and back together. I added a vintage Weaver K-4 Micro-trac scope. It's ready to sight-in and take hunting this Fall. 0
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