Winchester model 94
this gun is in fair condition, made approx 1966. looking for a fair value on this gun ? thanks
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What do you guys consider to be the most desirable of the older 94's. I really would like to have one with a crescent butt stock, but I have seen them in round,Octagon and half octagon/round barrels. Is it just personal or would one expect to pay more for a particular type of barrel. I am talking a gun you could shoot but also be in a collectable group. I've looked at most the gun sellers on line and they are all over the board on price and no particular design seems to lead in cost except those of special ordered guns and fancy grade wood. 0 -
THESE WERE BUILT WITH 'LOOSE' BORES TO ACCOUNT FOR BLACK POWDER FOULING, MOST .38/55 AMMO TODAY IS LOADED WITH .375" DIA. BULLETS. MOST .38/55 RIFLES FROM THAT ERA NEED .380" (+-) BULLETS TO SHOOT ACCURATLY. I ONCE HAD ONE OF THESE, A .375" JACKETED BULLET WOULD 'FALL' RIGHT THROUGH THE BARREL. 0 -
Really soft lead cast bullets .001 or .002 oversized.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38-55_Winchester0 -
Mike was hit the nail on the head. The original Winchesters rifles & carbines made in 38-55 were manufactured with a nominal bore diameter of .379. The 38-55 bullets of today are .375, and if you try using them in an old rifle, the accuracy will be horrible. In order to shoot an old 38-55 rifle, you need to slug your bore, and them use a bullet that is at least .001 larger in diameter. 0 -
Technical bore dimension issues aside, an 1894 made in 1900 in good condition has some collector value that would be wasted by relining the barrel. 0 -
I like the 38-55 round. Could somebody tell me when they started building a Winchester 38-55 that I can use the modern ammo? Did the do this over bore on other calibers? 0 -
"Could somebody tell me when they started building a Winchester 38-55 that I can use the modern ammo? Did the do this over bore on other calibers?".................Winchester did build several 'commemoratives' in the recent past (40 years) in .38/55. And yes, Winchester did do this 'overboring' to many of the 'old' black powder cals. 0 -
Any of the USRACo manufactured Model 94s in 38-55 were made for the .375 bullet. 0 -
If I recall correctly, the "Winchester Big Bore Model 94 XTR --375 WIN" made in the mid-1980s can shoot both the 375 Win and the 38-55. But. the 375 Win is too hot for a gun chambered for 38-55. I often see those carbines at gun local shows in excellent condition in the $800 range. One of those would give you a relatively modern shoulder thumper the should shoot both modern 38-55 and the newer cartridge.
Edit--- Sorry, I was misinformed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan
If I recall correctly, the "Winchester Big Bore Model 94 XTR --375 WIN" made in the mid-1980s can shoot both the 375 Win and the 38-55. But. the 375 Win is too hot for a gun chambered for 38-55. I often see those carbines at gun local shows in excellent condition in the $800 range. One of those would give you a relatively modern shoulder thumper the should shoot both modern 38-55 and the newer cartridge.
Not true! You should educate yourself about the two cartridges, as they are not interchangeable. A true 38-55 cartridge will not chamber in a .375 Win chamber, as it is too long, and too large in diameter. A 375 Win will fit in a 38-55 chamber, but it will be undersized in both length and diameter.0 -
Here's a good .375/38-55 discussion.. As Bert said, two different rounds..
http://www.shootersforum.com/leverguns-their-cartridges-general/91588-can-you-shot-38-55-brass-375-win.html0
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