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why cant I find a new beretta 32 tom cat in ss
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  • nmyers
    They don't appear to be making them in the US.

    While they don't post the details, I'm guessing that Beretta is concentrating on police & military production while the move from Accokeek, MD to Gallatin, TN is in progress.

    Have you actually held a 3032 in your hand? It's as bulky & heavy as several .380's & 9mm's that are currently available. I don't think that sales of the 3032 have been strong. But, if you have your heart set on one, used ones sell on occasion on the GB auctions.

    Neal
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  • ruger41
    Beretta also had issues..LOTS of issues with frames cracking with the Tomcat. Imo I'd look at a different small carry gun.
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  • tsr1965
    I am with ruger41, and nmyers. I had a SS Tomcat, and within 2 months traded it. I purchased it for my 81 year old mother, who could not rack the slide on most auto loaders. She couldn't push the barrel down on the Tomcat either. It was a Jamomatic with most ammo, as it does not have an extractor...most 32's like it do not have extractors.

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    quote:While the Beretta is probably not the ideal carry gun, I seriously doubt
    that the .32 is obsolete as a defensive cartridge!

    Obsolete, by definition...not really...guns(obviously), are still being made, as well as ammunition. However, obsolete by practicality...ABSOLUTELY! Why would anyone want to carry a 32 when there are 380's, and 9mm's as small as the 32's, that are being offered? The smallest, thinnest, and lightest 32 is the KelTec, by far...and their P38T, Ruger LCP, and the S&W Body Guard are the same essential size?
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by range
    why cant I find a new beretta 32 tom cat in ss

    My guess (and its just a guess) is that demand for these is so low Beretta stopped making/marketing them here.

    If you can live w/o stainless see here:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=471449608

    If you can live w/o "new", see here:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=470653056
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=471509473
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=471512218

    And no, I would buy one either. IMO not only is the Tomcat not a great platform for this caliber (its heavy, can be unreliable, and has durability issues, see above), but as a defensive cartridge .32 ACP is obsolete in 2015 anyway.

    Tip up barrel design might have some appeal for certain individuals with certain strength/anatomy issues. But for pretty much every one else. . .no.

    Again, IMO .380 ACP is better than .32 in basically EVERY way. Performance wise .380 is quite a bit better ballistically. .380 fires a larger diameter bullet of 50% more weight at effectively the same velocity as .32ACP. IE, its fully 50% more powerful AND makes a bigger "hole". At the same time, 32 and .380 ammo usually cost the same. . .there is no cost advantage to using the smaller round.

    In terms of platform, there is a much wider variety of guns available in .380, and the current generation of them is smaller AND lighter (and probably more reliable) than the older .32s like the Tomcat. The .380 guns typically cost less too.
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  • Bill DeShivs
    While the Beretta is probably not the ideal carry gun, I seriously doubt
    that the .32 is obsolete as a defensive cartridge!
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Bill DeShivs
    While the Beretta is probably not the ideal carry gun, I seriously doubt
    that the .32 is obsolete as a defensive cartridge!


    I guess it depends on what you mean by "obsolete".

    Again, in my opinion, the "point" of .32ACP in this context is that it gives you (somewhat) more power than a .22 or .25 but in a "micro" sized package.

    It still does that, and no, I wouldn't want to get shot by one. And sure, the .32 in your pocket is still better than the Remington 870 at home. For someone who is really recoil sensitive, .32 is probably still an option.

    Just for an adult male of normal size/strength, I simply don't see any reason to pick a .32 gun as a concealed carry weapon (well, unless you already have one, or can find a great deal on one).

    Again, the reason is that the .380 is ballistically better, the guns and ammo cost the same, the platforms are now similar in size, and are just as reliable. It wasn't always the case, but except for lower power/recoil at this point there is basically nothing the .32 does that the .380 doesn't do as well.

    Let look at a few representative "mousegun" ballistics (from BBTI):

    .22LR from Beretta Bobcat, 40 grain CCI minimag @ 851 FPS
    .32ACP from Beretta Tomcat, 60gr Win.Silvertip @ 783 FPS
    .380 ACP from Ruger LCP, 85gr Win. Silvertip @ 875 FPS.

    You can tweak the rounds and platforms for comparison but at a first estimate, the .32 is 50% more powerful than a .22LR, and the .380 is about 50% more powerful again. Particularly when you're dealing with these small lower power bullets, the single most important ballistic consideration is penetration, and the heavier .380 rounds should offer more of it.
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