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docsgunsmithing

January 05, 2015 11:43

is there arevolver out there that shoots 444 45lc and 410 if so what is it thanks

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  charliemeyer007

  January 05, 2015 11:58

  I think you will have problems with the 444. A .429 bullet will likely not shoot well in a .452 barrel. Pressure might be an issue. A 45-70 makes a fair shotgun. Balloon head case will do an ounce and an a eighth of shot. Patterns are usually poor due to rifling's.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_Research_BFR

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  rufe-snow

  January 05, 2015 17:11

  This is a Century Arms Model 100. Although it's a 45-70, I believe the company chambered it for other rifle cartridges, like the 444. To take the pressures safely, and absorb recoil. They have to be so physically large, to be impractical as handguns.
  
  
  
  
  

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  beantownshootah

  January 05, 2015 20:50

  quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
  This is a Century Arms Model 100. Although it's a 45-70, I believe the company chambered it for other rifle cartridges, like the 444. To take the pressures safely, and absorb recoil. They have to be so physically large, to be impractical as handguns.
  
  
  Its "compensation". [;)]
  
  Seriously, to answer the original question, no, I don't think there are any revolvers DESIGNED to fire .444, .45LC and .410 shotshells. The three cartridges in question are different enough that such a design really wouldn't make sense.
  
  Apart from the poor expected accuracy of a .430 caliber round through a .452 caliber bore, it would be fundamentally unsafe to fire a 44,000 CUP pressure rated modern smokeless rifle round through a handgun designed only to handle 14,000 PSI (ie black powder era) .45 LC loads. Even if you could cram a .444 shell into a .45 LC gun, it would be unsafe to pull the trigger
  
  Now, that said, you might be able to get away with firing a .444 round though a .454 Casull magnum/.410 gun. People do load the equivalent of 410 shells in 444 cases, so the physical dimensions should work, and .454 guns should be strong enough to handle .444 operating pressures.
  
  But just because you might "get away" with it (ie not hurt yourself or the gun), barring some sort of highly improbable emergency, I don't see any reason to actually do it. "Just to prove you can" is not a good reason, IMO. At best accuracy with 444 rounds would be lousy, sort of defeating the purpose of a gun like this. Further, if you're already holding a .454 gun, why not just fire .454 rounds from it, yielding comparable performance to the .444 (but with more accuracy and peace of mind?).
  
  If you "love" the idea of a .444 Marlin handgun so much, then just buy a dedicated .444 revolver. Magnum research sells them.
  
  https://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-444-Marlin-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp
  
  Assuming you had a .444 revolver, I don't think you'd want to try to fire .454" diameter LC bullets through its .430" bore, so .45LC from this platform is out.
  
  Some people do fire .410 shotshells right through "stock" .444 guns. You probably could get away with that in a .444 revolver. . .with the understanding that you'll probably be filling your rifling with plastic wadding, and you'll get an absolutely lousy/borderline worthless pattern with your shot. IMO again, this is one of those "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" scenarios. If you wanted .444 snakeshot, you could just load some up using ordinary .444 brass.

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