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  • Sam06
    I like Ted Cruz even in Mexican he is 100 times better than Jeb.
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  • chiefr
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I like Ted Cruz even in Mexican he is 100 times better than Jeb.



    He and Walker are the best so far.


    Good to see the NJ lard azz is out.
    I agree, JEB needs to go away as well or run on the socialist ticket where he could be the nominee. Not much difference between JEB and Obama.
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  • bigoutside
    He's Canadian. Not Mexican.
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  • reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......
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  • Sam06
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    He's Canadian. Not Mexican.


    I was referring to the video.

    He was born in Canada but his Mom is American. He passes the test as "Natural Born" see here:

    The consensus was that someone is a "natural born" citizen if they have citizenship at birth and don't have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

    If that's the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. (This same logic would apply to Obama, even if he were born in another country, which he wasn't.)
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  • fideau
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]
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  • jonk
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.
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  • Txs
    His father was born in Cuba and was an anti-Batista fighter who later turned anti-Castro when his communist bent became apparent. He then fled to the US and came up the hard way, earning his degree at UT Texas and is now a pastor in the Dallas area.

    His mother is from Delaware and of Irish/Italian descent.

    He was born in Canada when his parents lived there while working in the oil industry.
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  • TwoDogs
    I give him 90 days before
    he steps on his tongue.
    He knows he has no shot.
    However, if he does not muck up
    he may get on the ticket as VP.
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  • JamesRK
    If this is your standard political campaign it will go something like this:

    Hillary has already been anointed as the Democrat candidate. She will sail through without competition and nothing but praise, even from the Democrats who hate her guts.

    The Republicans will have somewhere between fifteen and twenty candidates. Long time friends will cut each other to bloody ribbons. No Republican will have anything good to say about another Republican.

    There will be no need for Hillary to rip-up the Republican. The Republicans will have already done that.
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  • cranky2
    It is so nice to watch someone give a speech without a teleprompter.
    I think he has a shot, lots better than McCain.
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  • droptop
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]


    So glad it's not necessary for me to point this out. [:D]
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  • Sam06
    I know is dad is cuban but the video if you watched it was in Mexican.
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  • cbyerly
    I bet the Democrats are doing their "happy dance" now that the most divisive person in the Republican party is running. His huge ego will prevent a united party in 2016.
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by jonk
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.


    This hits all relevant points.
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  • reload999
    Interesting; thanks for replying. quote:Originally posted by jonk
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.
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  • Dads3040
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    If this is your standard political campaign it will go something like this:

    Hillary has already been anointed as the Democrat candidate. She will sail through without competition and nothing but praise, even from the Democrats who hate her guts.

    The Republicans will have somewhere between fifteen and twenty candidates. Long time friends will cut each other to bloody ribbons. No Republican will have anything good to say about another Republican.

    There will be no need for Hillary to rip-up the Republican. The Republicans will have already done that.


    And then a goodly portion of the right will declare that they disagree with the Republican nominee on some issue or another, and therefore the guy is no different from Hillary.
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  • TwoDogs
    Even worse, if Perry can shake his Felony
    indictment(which I doubt)there will be two
    lugnuts embarrassing my home state.

    Neither have the campaign funds.
    Jeb has/will have it all.
    We all know the office now goes to
    the highest bidder.
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  • ruger41
    I hate it that these poliiticians start running this far in advance. By the time Iowa gets here Im sick of hearing their bs. And you can take it to the bank...if Jeb makes it to the General election our new POTUS will be Hildabeast.
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  • popgun
    I would be happy with Cruz, Walker or Rubio - with either of the others being VP.

    Jeb may have an early advantage, but it's hardly written in stone that he will be the nominee. It's very possible that any of the three above could knock him out of the race with a good campaign.

    And Hilly is not yet anointed. The looney Left wants Pocahontas (Warren,) and will try to undercut Hilly. The WH has already done so to a degree by leaking the illegal e-mail server. If her email scandal can't be wished away to the cornfield, it's possible that she can be eliminated from the race.

    So it's all very much up in the air at this point.
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  • ChrisInTempe
    If he gets very far, which ain't likely, there will be a court fight over his eligibility to be President. His mother was an American but his father did not become one until 2005. Plus his father fought for Castro, he was a Socialist Revolutionary. He was briefly a political refugee in the USA but went to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. Which is where his son Ted was born.

    Had Ted Cruz the foresight to be born of two American parents on an American military base, as McCain did, then he'd be a Natural Born American.

    But born off American soil? To an ex-Cuban Socialist Revolutionary Canadian father and an American ex-pat mother? Then he took until just recently to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

    Oh yeah, some lawyers are going to have a fun time with this guy alright.

    We need a pragmatic and successful State Governor of clear lineage to being a Natural Born American. Not a showboater of muddled claim to citizenship.
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  • pwillie
    It doesn't matter who is elected,we all lose states rights...
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  • popgun
    Legal experts say Cruz is an American. FAR better than what we have now. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    If Cruz's father was a Socialist, he's certainly changed... http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    Besides, in this country we don't accuse the son of the sins of the father.
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  • popgun
    Legal experts say Cruz is an American. FAR better than what we have now. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    If Cruz's father was a Socialist, he's certainly changed... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/06/ted-cruzs-father-delivers-epic-speech-touting-patriotism-and-lambasting-obamas-socialist-inclinations/

    Besides, in this country we don't accuse the son of the sins of the father.
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  • bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I know is dad is cuban but the video if you watched it was in Mexican.


    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??

    Does he speak Mexican??

    Can he even count to ten in Mexican??

    Or can he talk Cuban??

    I asked some of my Canadian friends if they thought it was a dealbreaker...

    They said "Oui".
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  • Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    If he gets very far, which ain't likely, there will be a court fight over his eligibility to be President. His mother was an American but his father did not become one until 2005. Plus his father fought for Castro, he was a Socialist Revolutionary. He was briefly a political refugee in the USA but went to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. Which is where his son Ted was born.

    Had Ted Cruz the foresight to be born of two American parents on an American military base, as McCain did, then he'd be a Natural Born American.

    But born off American soil? To an ex-Cuban Socialist Revolutionary Canadian father and an American ex-pat mother? Then he took until just recently to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

    Oh yeah, some lawyers are going to have a fun time with this guy alright.

    We need a pragmatic and successful State Governor of clear lineage to being a Natural Born American. Not a showboater of muddled claim to citizenship.

    You mean like your boy obama?
    That appears to be exactly what Chrisintempe means. Buyers remorse?[:D][:D]
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  • bpost
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]

    If he is the nominee I will send his campaign money, screw the (R) party.

    He would make a fine POTUS! [^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^]
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  • popgun
    quote:
    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??



    I believe it's called, "Spanish." Cuba, Mexico and several South American countries speak Spanish. We speak English, but we're not English.
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  • bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by popgun
    quote:
    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??



    I believe it's called, "Spanish." Cuba, Mexico and several South American countries speak Spanish. We speak English, but we're not English.


    He's from Spain now??!!??

    Is that his mom?
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  • Aspen79se
    quote:Originally posted by TwoDogs
    Even worse, if Perry can shake his Felony
    indictment(which I doubt)there will be two
    lugnuts embarrassing my home state.

    Neither have the campaign funds.
    Jeb has/will have it all.
    We all know the office now goes to
    the highest bidder.


    Cruz has the exact chances as Herman Cain.
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