You can't generalize about an entire religion
You can't generalize about an entire religion, or can you?
Can't Pinpoint The Problem? Try The Common Denominator!
This Sums It Up
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
So This Leads To:
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
So, where are they happy ?
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame?
Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy! Then they won't be happy anywhere. Maybe they'll be happy then.
That doesn't make any sense, but it's Islam we're talking about, so...
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
There are, of course, a lot more Islamic terror organizations including Islam itself.
One of our members here posted this:quote:Originally posted by Barzillia:
I was pointing out that whether Islam or Christianity, it is a mistaken notion to characterize the many based upon the acts of a few, especially when the few may be misappropriating the name.How about characterizing the many based upon the acts of the many?
Can't Pinpoint The Problem? Try The Common Denominator!
This Sums It Up
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
So This Leads To:
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
So, where are they happy ?
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame?
Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy! Then they won't be happy anywhere. Maybe they'll be happy then.
That doesn't make any sense, but it's Islam we're talking about, so...
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
There are, of course, a lot more Islamic terror organizations including Islam itself.
One of our members here posted this:quote:Originally posted by Barzillia:
I was pointing out that whether Islam or Christianity, it is a mistaken notion to characterize the many based upon the acts of a few, especially when the few may be misappropriating the name.How about characterizing the many based upon the acts of the many?
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quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
I think you need more than a quick Google or Wiki to reasonably discuss the issues.Barzillia, I attended a Presbyterian elementary school for the first six years, parochial school for a couple, attended Sunday school and VBS until college, and at one point considered the seminary. However, that was over fifty years ago, so of course I cannot compete with your knowledge of the Bible as you have so ably shown.
By doing that you have demonstrated that you have no idea of what the discussion is here. You've diverted it to your area of expertise, but, at the same time lost sight of the target.
I was not discussing the entire New Testament, Old Testament, and all of the interactions between the two. I was making the point, clearly I thought, that Muhammad and the Qur'an instructs its faithful to kill, rape, torture, enslave, etc. those who do not believe as they do. By contrast, Christianity, the New Testament, does not instruct Christians to harm non-Christians.
All you have done with your Bible test, is to muddy the waters somewhat, and attempt to humiliate me, which you have failed to do. I knew when I took your test that there was no way in heaven or hell that I could satisfy your pompous and conceited Pharisee mind.
You have also failed to prove - or even discuss a valid reason - why the entirety of Muhammadanism cannot be judged by the actions of the violent fundamentalists. All you have done in that regard is to repeat, over and over, that it cannot be done.quote:But to be fair, it is not just your failing, it is the problem all non-believers have.Well, you did not disappoint me. I've always considered you a pompous assh0le, and you've have only reinforced that assessment. Yours is the typical attitude of a religious zealot: if one does not believe exactly the way you do, one is not a believer.
Here are the facts: out of approximately 1,000,000,000 Muslims, somewhere around 100,000 to 200,000 have committed or are now engaged in committing acts of terrorism motivated by religion. If you include all the active members of all the recognized[/i]Islamic terror organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda, ISIS/ISIL, etc.), that number would easily surpass 1,000,000. Therefore, the failure rate varies between 1:10,000 and 1:1000, with the probability shading towards the highest proportion.
Looking at Christians, who number slightly more than Muhammadans, you might be able to find a hundred religious terrorists. More likely less, you could probably count them on one hand.
Many people - Barack Hussein Obama being one of them - point to all violent acts by Christians and compare them directly to Islamic violence. The obvious error there is that while nearly all violence by Muhammadans is motivated, guided, and justified by the words of Muhammad as reported in the Islamic holy texts, none of the violence by Christians can be attributed to any teaching of Jesus Christ. Indeed, violence by Christians is in direct opposition to those teachings.
So my assertion stands and is proven by facts as well as your display of hubris: Islam instructs Muslims to kill non-believers; Christianity does not instruct Christians to kill Muslims or anybody else.
Very well said Tallcharlie and quite accurate, all of it.0 -
Time to call it a day on this thread. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Countries are not people.
Countries without people are just land masses. It's the people that make countries.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Countries are not people.
Countries without people are just land masses. It's the people that make countries.
No, the presence of people does not make countries. Neither do religions.
What does it take to make a country, in your opinion?quote:
But rather than argue, why not then try "States are not people", if it makes the idea more understandable for you.
Fine by me.
What do you think is the difference between a country and a state? Just to help me understand what you meant, that is.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Go back to the thread where the quote was taken from, and read it in context.
I'm sure you will be able to figure it out.
Nothing for me to figure out. If you cannot tell me what you mean, too bad.0
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