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You can't generalize about an entire religion

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  • bpost
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    I think you need more than a quick Google or Wiki to reasonably discuss the issues.Barzillia, I attended a Presbyterian elementary school for the first six years, parochial school for a couple, attended Sunday school and VBS until college, and at one point considered the seminary. However, that was over fifty years ago, so of course I cannot compete with your knowledge of the Bible as you have so ably shown.

    By doing that you have demonstrated that you have no idea of what the discussion is here. You've diverted it to your area of expertise, but, at the same time lost sight of the target.

    I was not discussing the entire New Testament, Old Testament, and all of the interactions between the two. I was making the point, clearly I thought, that Muhammad and the Qur'an instructs its faithful to kill, rape, torture, enslave, etc. those who do not believe as they do. By contrast, Christianity, the New Testament, does not instruct Christians to harm non-Christians.

    All you have done with your Bible test, is to muddy the waters somewhat, and attempt to humiliate me, which you have failed to do. I knew when I took your test that there was no way in heaven or hell that I could satisfy your pompous and conceited Pharisee mind.

    You have also failed to prove - or even discuss a valid reason - why the entirety of Muhammadanism cannot be judged by the actions of the violent fundamentalists. All you have done in that regard is to repeat, over and over, that it cannot be done.quote:But to be fair, it is not just your failing, it is the problem all non-believers have.Well, you did not disappoint me. I've always considered you a pompous assh0le, and you've have only reinforced that assessment. Yours is the typical attitude of a religious zealot: if one does not believe exactly the way you do, one is not a believer.

    Here are the facts: out of approximately 1,000,000,000 Muslims, somewhere around 100,000 to 200,000 have committed or are now engaged in committing acts of terrorism motivated by religion. If you include all the active members of all the recognized[/i]Islamic terror organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda, ISIS/ISIL, etc.), that number would easily surpass 1,000,000. Therefore, the failure rate varies between 1:10,000 and 1:1000, with the probability shading towards the highest proportion.

    Looking at Christians, who number slightly more than Muhammadans, you might be able to find a hundred religious terrorists. More likely less, you could probably count them on one hand.

    Many people - Barack Hussein Obama being one of them - point to all violent acts by Christians and compare them directly to Islamic violence. The obvious error there is that while nearly all violence by Muhammadans is motivated, guided, and justified by the words of Muhammad as reported in the Islamic holy texts, none of the violence by Christians can be attributed to any teaching of Jesus Christ. Indeed, violence by Christians is in direct opposition to those teachings.

    So my assertion stands and is proven by facts as well as your display of hubris: Islam instructs Muslims to kill non-believers; Christianity does not instruct Christians to kill Muslims or anybody else.


    Very well said Tallcharlie and quite accurate, all of it.
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  • wifetrained
    Time to call it a day on this thread.
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  • Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia

    Countries are not people.



    Countries without people are just land masses. It's the people that make countries.
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  • tallcharlie
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia

    Countries are not people.



    Countries without people are just land masses. It's the people that make countries.


    No, the presence of people does not make countries. Neither do religions.
    What does it take to make a country, in your opinion?quote:
    But rather than argue, why not then try "States are not people", if it makes the idea more understandable for you.

    Fine by me.
    What do you think is the difference between a country and a state? Just to help me understand what you meant, that is.
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  • tallcharlie
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Go back to the thread where the quote was taken from, and read it in context.

    I'm sure you will be able to figure it out.
    Nothing for me to figure out. If you cannot tell me what you mean, too bad.
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