b0 Caliber Carbine
A friend of mine gave me a 30 Caliber Carbine. Is there anyway to tell who made the gun?
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Under the rear site 0 -
DO NOT remove the rear sight. You may need to use tracing paper to read the name under the rear sight overhang.
Of course, if you can read the serial number, that may tell us who made the receiver.
Neal
EDIT: Well, at least you know that your carbine has a good USGI barrel, which is a good sign. You still need the manufacturers name & serial number on the receiver for your records. You have learned that your gunsmith is not a "service trained armorer", & knows his limitations. But, fortunately for you, the carbine trigger group is easy to take apart & put together, even if you have no skill. You really want to buy a copy of "US M1 Carbines, Wartime Production" by Craig Riesch, which has diagrams of all parts, & costs < $20. Or, just take/ship your trigger group to a service trained armorer for repair.
EDIT2: Based on the SN, we can be sure that the manufacturer of the receiver was Underwood; they made their own barrels, & also supplied barrels to other primary manufacturers. I thought that your gunsmith returned it to you without repairing the trigger group; I would expect most gunsmiths could repair it, since it's just a matter of replacing parts. A "service trained armorer" just has a lot more experience with USGI firearms, & will usually have the special tools & gauges that general gunsmiths will not have. My "armorer" could strip a TG in 30 seconds, & tell which parts were good & which parts were bad in another minute, just by eyeballing them.0 -
If it's government surplus, it's probably a mixed bag of parts from many makers. They were rebuilt and the government didn't care to have the rebuilder keep one rifle's parts together. 0 -
By "who made this gun" I think we should agree that the who is the name on the reciever.
Many military guns were made - manufactured - born with parts supplied from other companies.
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You have a very good friend. 0 -
I really do have a good friend who gave me the Carbine. He had told me about owning the gun but had not shot it for years. I had several boxes of ammo so I gave him a box. A couple weeks later he called me over to his car and handed me the gun and ammo. Said he really had no interest in shooting anymore and felt I should have the gun.
I collect Winchesters and know absolutely nothing about this gun. The first place it went was to my gunsmith. He tells me the barrel is marked right behind the front sight Underwood 1943. He said the gun is in extremely good shape with a really good bore. It will need some work as apparently some work had been done on the sear. It did fire full auto for two rounds then after that it would fire, eject and load a round but would not cock the hammer.
I think it will be a fun one to shoot0 -
Neal, my guns serial number is 2363463. As I said I do not buy military guns, Winchester lever guns makes up 99% of my collection. Are you telling me I need to have this gun worked on by a gunsmith that has to have a special license to work on military guns? My gunsmith is retired from the Army but I have no idea what part of his training is on military weapons.
The Carbine was my assigned weapon when I was in the Army but that was 50 years ago. I will look into getting the book.0 -
Neal, first, I have my book on the way. Found one on e bay for $20 including shipping. The gunsmith still has my gun. I will check around and see if there is "armorer" in my area. This is more than likely the only military carbine I will ever own. I would guess the book will answer most of the questions I have concerning the carbine so I will hold off on that until I get the book I really do appreciate your and the other folks help. 0
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