Joy's Gew 98 has a bid!
Took some coaching & guidance, but worth the effort.
http://www.GunBroker.com/item/568670836
My take on it, condensed:
It's a WW2 Veteran's Bring-Back (VBB) Gew. 98M (the "M": collector/historic nomenclature for "modified"), a common pattern of post-WW1 reworked Gew.98 issued to Weimar era (between WW1 & 1937) German troops.
I can tell from bore pix that cond is approx NRA Fine+.
Per pic #30, this rifle somehow missed Germany's obligatory final proofing on the barrel, as evidenced by the lack of any Deutsche Beschusstempel (German Ordnance Dept final acceptance proof, firing proof, or F/P). The receiver's F/P is clearly shown in pic #29 (it's the "Prussian Eagle" character immediately to the left of the "3101" s/n). Be advised that by German proof laws, the receiver, barrel & bolt of long arms must be so marked for military weapons.
The rear sight leaf is the Standardmodell/K98k pattern (from 1933-1934-on), & the "S/42G" sight base marking pegs it to precisely 1935 w/o any doubt.
The mismatched stock (s/n 515) is arctic beech, & the cracked walnut handguard could be from either WW1, between wars (Weimar), or early WW2 era (thru approx 1940).
Overall, I've got to lean towards the following rough conclusion after examining all the pix: this example spent the decades between WW1 & WW2 in a German, French or Belgian family's closet before it was "liberated" in the mid-'40s. Without a US import stamp, we could assume a USGI liked it enough to drag home w/ him.
The logic:
1) Missing the obligatory Versailles Treaty 1920 "permission" stamp @ front TDC of receiver ring.
2) It wears the Standardmodell & K98k-pattern rear sight leaf from '33-on, & the rear sight base from 1935.
3) Lacks (US) import stamp.
Hope this helps.
http://www.GunBroker.com/item/568670836
My take on it, condensed:
It's a WW2 Veteran's Bring-Back (VBB) Gew. 98M (the "M": collector/historic nomenclature for "modified"), a common pattern of post-WW1 reworked Gew.98 issued to Weimar era (between WW1 & 1937) German troops.
I can tell from bore pix that cond is approx NRA Fine+.
Per pic #30, this rifle somehow missed Germany's obligatory final proofing on the barrel, as evidenced by the lack of any Deutsche Beschusstempel (German Ordnance Dept final acceptance proof, firing proof, or F/P). The receiver's F/P is clearly shown in pic #29 (it's the "Prussian Eagle" character immediately to the left of the "3101" s/n). Be advised that by German proof laws, the receiver, barrel & bolt of long arms must be so marked for military weapons.
The rear sight leaf is the Standardmodell/K98k pattern (from 1933-1934-on), & the "S/42G" sight base marking pegs it to precisely 1935 w/o any doubt.
The mismatched stock (s/n 515) is arctic beech, & the cracked walnut handguard could be from either WW1, between wars (Weimar), or early WW2 era (thru approx 1940).
Overall, I've got to lean towards the following rough conclusion after examining all the pix: this example spent the decades between WW1 & WW2 in a German, French or Belgian family's closet before it was "liberated" in the mid-'40s. Without a US import stamp, we could assume a USGI liked it enough to drag home w/ him.
The logic:
1) Missing the obligatory Versailles Treaty 1920 "permission" stamp @ front TDC of receiver ring.
2) It wears the Standardmodell & K98k-pattern rear sight leaf from '33-on, & the rear sight base from 1935.
3) Lacks (US) import stamp.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Joey! I appreciate all who have given input. Keep an eye on the listing, as I may add more updates and photos regarding condition and markings. 0 -
More than likely a "Duffle Cut"
GIs often separated the barreled action from the wood and cut the stock usually under the forward band so it would fit in their duffle bag.
Unfortunately the forward part of the stock that was cut off is missing.0 -
A proper "Dufflebag cut" was done under the REAR band.
quote:Originally posted by chiefr
More than likely a "Duffle Cut".
GIs often separated the barreled action from the wood and cut the stock usually under the forward band so it would fit in their duffle bag. Unfortunately the forward part of the stock that was cut off is missing.0 -
Interesting
I have it on good authority that the bidder is just going to make
a lamp out of it.0 -
I've added more pics and info to the listing! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by 101AIRBORNE
Interesting
I have it on good authority that the bidder is just going to make
a lamp out of it.
If the ultimate winner has the parts and knowledge, to restore it so that it's near original. It will become a big buck collectors item.
A original G 98 from 1916, that was reworked by Mauser Oberndorf.(in the mid 30's). Is virtually unknown, in original condition.
Years back when I still lived in calli. I use to know a bunch of the Santa's little elves, who specialized in faking Mausers. They would wet themselves, if the could get their hands on something like this.0 -
Not bad.
Looks like ya nailed it.
quote:Originally posted by 101AIRBORNE
I have it on good authority that the bidder is just going to make
a lamp out of it.0 -
SOLD! 0 -
I would have thought it would have went for a little more. 0 -
I was hoping for more, but it's fine. I like to get deals too.:) 0
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