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  • IN gunsmith
    I recently acquired an AMT Hardballer, 5" barrel. It is in REALLY nice condition and I like it a LOT!! I have had quite a few different models of the AMT's, and like most of them.
    My questions is, I would like to know the approx manufacture date and any more info about the Hardballers that you all may know. The serial number is A24441. I am also looking for an original box and paperwork, if anyone may have one laying around.....?
    Any info that you all could provide, or links to the info would be great!
    Thanks in advance!
    Happy New Year,
    and God Bless America
    Jerry
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  • rufe-snow
    My personal experience. Most of the AMC guns were made of poor workmanship/quality, stainless steel investment castings. Not being test fired, or proper quality control after assembly.

    I bought the top end long slide hard baller at a gun show years ago, that didn't work. The extractor mortise hadn't been machined correctly.

    My advice is to check out the innards of the hardballer. For correct internal machining tolerances. I'm sure that yours has the same problem(s) mine did. The internals of the stainless steel investment casting, weren't machined to the correct tolerance.
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  • charliemeyer007
    I think I have their POS Government model in soft crappy stainless. A lot of parts have broken. Find a book on tuning up a 1911, you will be either grinding off or welding on metal to make it work. Time to earn your gunsmith name instead of gun assembler.

    added With a WWII HS barrel, a new front sight I made and then high temp silver soldered in place, filing flat the rear surface of the slides recoil spring tunnel and some other work it will cycle 100% with my loads; Lyman 452374 and W 231. I just ordered the Lyman Devastator in 44 and 45.

    Added2 You can mark working surfaces with like Sharpie, lip stick, white out and or bearing blue to show you where parts are hitting. It is far easier to take more metal off than to put it back on.
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  • Kenneth Stuart
    Friend had an AMT and it was a "continuous Jama-matic" and even gunsmiths couldn't fix it. Beware of companies whose expertise in investment casting lies somewhere in the regime of brake parts castings and such things.
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  • tsr1965
    Another part of the problem, with the AMT's, and it is just about any gun they made, except the Ruger clones, was that their heat treating process was not properly, and consistently controlled. Lots of times the frames and slides were left softer than they should have been, creating friction, and galling.
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  • yoshmyster
    Now if it were me. I'd put it back as original and see if it works.

    When you say it will not work. Is the grip safety binding up the bits? See if the original grip safety and the new guts work together. If so may be the new grip safety is too thick or too long. The flipy bit with the notch.

    You may have to sit there and see what components will mix and match to work.
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  • M1A762
    quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
    I think I have their POS Government model in soft crappy stainless. A lot of parts have broken. Find a book on tuning up a 1911, you will be either grinding off or welding on metal to make it work. Time to earn your gunsmith name instead of gun assembler.

    added With a WWII HS barrel, a new front sight I made and then high temp silver soldered in place, filing flat the rear surface of the slides recoil spring tunnel and some other work it will cycle 100% with my loads; Lyman 452374 and W 231. I just ordered the Lyman Devastator in 44 and 45.


    You are going to like those Lyman Devastator molds! I have the .45, .44 and 9mm Devastator molds. Your alloy needs to be hotter than normal to fill out the HP nose. Keep the pin hot and work fast!
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  • Hawk Carse
    A friend had one way back when.
    It was kind of junky and ended up with a lot of Colt and GI internal parts, but when he got it working, it held up well to a steady diet of what we now call +P. The rails were just burnished smooth with no galling or peening. Looks like he got one where they hit the material selection and heat treat just right.
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  • b0400879
    Most competent gunsmiths will "fit" a grip safety for a nominal fee.

    For the record: "AMT" & "quality" will seldom be found used in the same sentence.
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  • SP45
    That particular model was not considered "High Quality" back when they were being made. In any case if the frame and the holes are to the proper spec. then you should be able to fit the proper pieces. Not all pieces are "drop in" even is they claim to be.
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