44 Mag Scope Movement Issues
Have a Super Redhawk 44 mag that is scoped using Ruger factory rings. My issue is that under recoil my scope is moving forward in the rings. I've used friction paper as well as rubber cement in the rings for friction and while this helped I'm still getting movement. Suggestions from the experts on how to solve this? Thanks!
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Try cleaning the rings completely and apply powdered rosin. 0 -
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Clean the inside of rings and the scope tube with acetone. Tighten the screws more. If the rings are bottomed out ask Ruger for pair that properly fits your scope. Or you could take a little off the mating surfaces so you can tighten them properly.
Loctite red. Let it dry for a few days.
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First, take the scope out of the rings and look for finish wear. Odds are you have insufficient contact between ring halves and scope tube. That's the main booger with mass produced ring sets. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTIY9cZlpPs
Install the rings and align them. Once aligned lap them for 75% contact. Lap a little and check. Lap a little more and check. You want an even amount of material removed around the inside of the ring halves. If the lap pattern shows more at the center top or bottom Stop and start over with a new set of rings. The ring bore is going to be out of round (oval) and will still slip and could damage the score tube. Trying for 100% contact could cause this same out of round condition.
When you reassemble clean rings and tube with acetone, Dichro-Clean, brakeclean, whatever doesn't leave a residue and apply a small amount of Loctite. Snug the screws down ensuring an even gap between ring halves on both sides of the scope and torque to 15-20 Inch pounds.
Allow a couple of days for the Loctite to cure.0 -
Thanks guys! I had not heard the resin trick before. 70% lapping makes sense more than pushing for 100%. I'll give these a shot! 0 -
I have one of these and like it.
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Thanks Toad. My kit was lost in a fire a long while back. Guess it's time to get another. 0 -
The rings should be clean and dry to start with. There should be plenty of room left to tighten the ring cap screws. Those screws should not be tightened to more than 20 inch-pounds...ever. You might try lapping your rings, like you are supposed to do, to get more surface area of the ring, gripping your scope. Scope mounting, for the most part, when done properly, is not plug-n-play.
If you do not have enough cap screw engagement, you can take some material off the mating cap screw surface of the bottom ring half. Do this with 120, and 220 grit emery cloth, and a FLAT surface. Make sure to do it evenly.
Use a torque wrench/screw driver to torque your ring cap screws to 16-20 inch-pounds. NEVER use RED LOC-TITE on any part of the scope ring or cap screws...NEVER!0 -
I've lapped in scope rings using the Wheeler product as demonstrated by Mr. Larry Potterfield on Midway. If you lap the rings with them mounted on the pistol, you'll also get the axis of the two rings to be concentric. Just make sure to thoroughly mask off, by using masking tape and paper, the pistol when doing this. You don't want the grinding compound getting on the pistol. Makes for a better clean up of the pistol and scope rings afterwards.
My stainless Ruger 77II rifles with their scopes also seemed to be a little bit more accurate after I lapped their rings.0 -
I, unfortunately found the Ruger ring quality to be poor at best. My friend had nightmares getting the correct special rings for his 44 mag bolt gun. On installing the scope I noticed the rings were not round, one screw stripped out at 20 inch pounds of torque and the screws were too short to gain more than one or two threads. I had to retap all the holes and put longer screws in.
I am not sure why Ruger took a great idea, integral scope bases and made them so only the poor quality stuff they sell will fit.
I suggest you lap the rings, the ones I had were rougher than a cob.0 -
Other companies make Ruger style rings, perhaps that with resin is a solution? I have some pretty heavy recoiling "hand-rifles" and even in 405 Win, 375 H & H, 350 RemMag don't have a slippage problem. I tend to use light, shorter & more compact pistol scopes on the heavier recoiling rounds. I think that helps keep them in place. 0
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