Dropped gun
I am hearing more and more incident of people dropping guns and they go off and injure someone close by. What are people carrying that go off when dropped.
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I don't know what kind of gun a liar carries.
But I bet that most "dropped gun" stories are to cover up bad gun handling or even a dispute that everybody is suddenly very sorry of. Had a case like that here.0 -
The "dropped gun" issue is akin to the news medias reporting that so-and so was handling (cleaning) their firearm and it just (accidentally) went off.
BS...it went off because some fool pulled the trigger without checking to see if the piece were loaded.0 -
That's why my great state of California has drop tests for handguns and only allow sales of "safe guns". You wish your state was more like my state. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
That's why my great state of California has drop tests for handguns and only allow sales of "safe guns". You wish your state was more like my state.
NOT [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]0 -
My dad a WWII vet was disqualified from a jury trial for a lady that accidentally shot her husband twice with a single shot rifle.
A few years back an acquaintance was packing an unaltered Ruger Blackhawk with all six chambers loaded. He had no clue. A lady down the road has some SAA clone that could go off if dropped on the hammer with a fully loaded cylinder.0 -
I had a CZ-52 pistol fall out of a holster while the holstered pistol was in a fanny pack resting on the back of a chair. After the pistol dropped about 2 feet onto a carpeted floor hitting somewhere about the hammer it went go off. The Velcro scripts of the holster had slowly released the pistol. Only damages were to the zipper of a jacket which was also folded over the back of the chair and a hole in the ceiling and roof directly above the chair. Very unexpected and scary experience. 0 -
As mentioned, most "dropped and it went off" are lies intended to cover up a negligent (or in some cases deliberate) discharge. I know an incident where someone claimed this. . .except the gun was not only "drop proof" but HOLSTERED and there WASN'T a hole in the holster!
There definitely ARE guns that can go off if dropped with a loaded cylinder/chamber. The "problem" is that virtually all of them are either antiquated designs, or super-cheapies.
There is no modern design gun by a reputable manufacturer that isn't designed *on purpose* to be drop-safe. Many are designed such that the firing pin can't move unless the trigger is moved rearwards.
Guns I know of? Off the top of my head:
-Series 70 Colt 1911 can discharge if dropped muzzle down. Note that "if" this happens, bullet "should" go straight into the ground!
-Original Colt "Peacemaker" single action revolvers can go off if dropped, that's why you're supposed to carry this, and clones, with hammer resting on empty chamber.
-Pre hammer block (WWII era) Smith revolvers can go off if dropped.
-Old school Commie pistols (Tokarev, CZ52) can go off if dropped.
-I'm told that the cheapie "ring of fire" guns (Raven/Phoenix/etc) guns aren't drop safe.
-SKS rifles, I'm told, aren't entirely drop safe due to floating firing pin design. Also, gun safety just blocks the trigger, not the firing pin, so that doesn't really "help".
I'm sure there are any number of other older design longarms that aren't drop safe either.0 -
Many guns CAN go off if dropped depending on design and condition.
Thats why many new designs incorporate a firing pin block.
On single action Rugers there is a groove between chambers to lower the firing pin into and be safer than the half cock notch.
If you need an empty chamber, the revolver needs parts and/or gunsmithing.
From the earliest percussion Colts and others,there was a provision to lower the hammer between chambers. The SAA in 45 hasn't enough room for this feature but it's possible for smaller calibers. One could file a notch in case heads of adjacent chambers to accept the firing pin in 45LC, 44-40 & 38-40 SAAs. If you have cylinder endplay, this isn't a good idea.
This is a big subject that needs more than a one line answer to explain.
Not many years ago, as a result of accidents, there was a widespread warning not to lean loaded and cocked guns against fences when climbing over the fences.0 -
Saw a Sterling pocket .22 back in the 80's that was so sloppy it would fire if you lifted upwards on the rear of the slide.
Definitely not a pistol you'd want to see drop and land on it's front sight.0
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