Need a bullet recommendation .224 caliber
Just bought a 220 swift and need to reload for it. My goal is to find a 50-55 gr .224 bullet that will group 1 moa or less. The rifle will be used for informal target shooting and hunting. Im not really looking for an expensive target bullet but Speer, Nosler, Sierra, Barnes, Hornady etc. Bullet will need to be able to handle 3800 FPS. Anyone have a favorite thats worked well for them?
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I doubt that you'll have enough rifling twist to handle anything over 50gr or so. No target bullets in that weight range. Good luck. 0 -
I have a buddy with a Ruger bolt gun in 220 Swift. perhaps the 5th most accurate rifle I ever shot. I'll ask what he uses.
Personally every rifle is different. Partial boxes of bullets from the gun show tables can be a good start for cheaper testing.
Sierra and Hornady have lots of choices in the 50 to 55 grain. I like boattails myself.
Ackley's solid copper controlled expansion bullets were the ticket for hunting.
http://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=/_/N-4294966051+4294943576+22042?Np=2&Nr=AND%28p_visible%3A1%2Ccustomertypeid%3A1%29&Nrpp=24&Ns=p_metric_sales_velocity%7C1&Ntpc=1&Ntpr=10 -
steve45,
Knowing both the manufacturer of the rifle and the twist rate will help immensely to solve your question. Anything else is simply second guessing.
Best.
This is a note regarding the twist rates for various rifles:
220 Swift - 1 in 12" . . . . . . . . . . .Savage 112; Thompson/Center Rifle
220 Swift - 1 in 14" . . . . . . . . . . .Winchester 70; Remington 700; Ruger 77; FN;
Savage 112-V0 -
If it's a 1-12, 1-14 twist I like Hornady 50 grain Vmax and 52 grain Amax. They shoot very good out of my rifles and have a very nice splat factor on varmints. 0 -
The first center-fire rifle I bought was a Swift with a heavy barrel built on a 1939 German Mauser action. That was in 1958, so I've got 58 years reloading for the Swift. My next Swift is a Ruger 77 that I bought when they first started chambering for that cartridge. You probably don't remember but Ruger said they were going make a limited run so I thought I'd better get one while I could.
The Ruger shoots pretty well with most anything. 50 gr. Hornady spire with 38.6 of IMR4320 averages .77 @ 3792 fps. 50 gr. Remington PLHP with the old classic load of 39 of IMR4064 averages .92 @ 3859 fps. The 55 gr Sierra spt and 42.5 of IMR4350 avg .80 @ 3706 fps and the 55 Speer spt with 42.5 IMR4350 runs about the same. The more costly 53 Sierra HP match with 42.5 IMR4350 tightens the group to .73 and the velocity goes to 3791 fps.
My newest .220 is the Remington "Classic" that I bought in 1992 so I'm quite sure my Swifts are all 1-14" twist. Some of my Swifts shoot alright with the 60 gr. Hornady spire but not with the 60 Hornady Vmax. I believe the 63 gr. Sierra semi-point was designed for the 1-14" rifles like the .220 and .22-.250 but I don't think I've tried that bullet yet.0 -
I don't have a Swift, but my .222, .223, and .22-250 have all done very well with the 52 gr SMK boattail. I think I see a pattern.
My next best bullet was the Remington 50 gr Powr Lokt, possibly the ugliest bullet on the market, now discontinued. But it shot well.
The internet has made people timid and overanxious on twist rates.
XXCross and many others are completely out of touch with several decades of varmint rifles with 14 twist shooting 55 and some 60 grain bullets perfectly well.0 -
Try a 52 grain Berger FB bullet. You might be impressed. 0 -
I bought the Ruger model 77 in 220 swift. 1 in 14 twist rate. Thanks for the help everyone. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
Ackley's solid copper controlled expansion bullets were the ticket for hunting.
http://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=/_/N-4294966051+4294943576+22042?Np=2&Nr=AND%28p_visible%3A1%2Ccustomertypeid%3A1%29&Nrpp=24&Ns=p_metric_sales_velocity%7C1&Ntpc=1&Ntpr=1
Copper bullets are longer than lead core bullets. I think only Barnes' 45 grain bullets are recommended for 1-14 22s.
The accuracy standard you stated isn't that stringent. Most bullets ought to do fine as long as they're an appropriate weight and designed for high velocity.
I tried the Speer flat base 55 gr spitzer, Nosler Ballistic Tip 55gr boat tail, and even Hornady ball m193-type 55 grain bullets in a 1-14 22-250. They shot OK.0 -
I use 50 grain Nosler BT in my slow twist 220 Swift. 0 -
What type of animal are you going to hunt with the 220 swift.
Like maybe deer?
If you are going to shoot any deer sized animals you need to select a HUNTING bullet for such.
At 3800fps some 220 swift bullets will blown up before good penetration and the animal will run off to die another day is why I ask.
How do I know this.[:I][B)](been their, done that)
Also you will find that powder type selection testing in the Swift is important for real good accuracy.
1:14 is in the slow twist range but some will group the 60 gr Nosler partition and some will even group the 70gr speer hunting bullets.
You will have to sacrifice some accuracy (usually around 1 to 1 1/2 inch groups as compared to one hole groups for the lighter target bullets) for use of the hunting bullets as compared to the paper punching lighter bullets.
Don't overheat the barrel when testing. (slow 3 shot groups are the normal for me when testing)0 -
Its not for serious hunting, it would be the rifle I carry around during a friends hunt for when I spot a coyote. quote:Originally posted by Okie743
What type of animal are you going to hunt with the 220 swift.
Like maybe deer?
If you are going to shoot any deer sized animals you need to select a HUNTING bullet for such.
At 3800fps some 220 swift bullets will blown up before good penetration and the animal will run off to die another day is why I ask.
How do I know this.[:I][B)](been their, done that)
Also you will find that powder type selection testing in the Swift is important for real good accuracy.
1:14 is in the slow twist range but some will group the 60 gr Nosler partition and some will even group the 70gr speer hunting bullets.
You will have to sacrifice some accuracy (usually around 1 to 1 1/2 inch groups as compared to one hole groups for the lighter target bullets) for use of the hunting bullets as compared to the paper punching lighter bullets.
Don't overheat the barrel when testing. (slow 3 shot groups are the normal for me when testing)0 -
I have had unbelievable results with the Dogtown 55 grain Hp bullets (made by nosler) and sold by Midway in all my 22 centerfires. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by B17-P51
I have had unbelievable results with the Dogtown 55 grain Hp bullets (made by nosler) and sold by Midway in all my 22 centerfires.
Yep, they are a great bullet. I have shot thousands of them out of AR type rifles. I now buy the Nosler 55 grain FBHP 2nds from SPS. The last time I ordered they had them for 9.99 for a bag of 100, I snagged a few K. Same bullet, just a couple bucks cheaper through SPS, at the time.0 -
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
quote:Originally posted by B17-P51
I have had unbelievable results with the Dogtown 55 grain Hp bullets (made by nosler) and sold by Midway in all my 22 centerfires.
Yep, they are a great bullet. I have shot thousands of them out of AR type rifles. I now buy the Nosler 55 grain FBHP 2nds from SPS. The last time I ordered they had them for 9.99 for a bag of 100, I snagged a few K. Same bullet, just a couple bucks cheaper through SPS, at the time.
Rob sorry, what/who is SPS please?
Thanks
jake0 -
Shooters Pro Shop. They are selling for 12.95 a bag now. I signed up for email alerts on their specials. They will have sales and free shipping, from time to time. They sell all kinds of stuff, but I have only ever ordered the blems (cosmetic only).
Link for blem bullet page. Pick your caliber on the left menu.
http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-products/nosler-blemished-2nds/nosler-blemished-bullets/shopby/f/isAjax/1.html0 -
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
Shooters Pro Shop. They are selling for 12.95 a bag now. I signed up for email alerts on their specials. They will have sales and free shipping, from time to time. They sell all kinds of stuff, but I have only ever ordered the blems (cosmetic only).
Link for blem bullet page. Pick your caliber on the left menu.
http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-products/nosler-blemished-2nds/nosler-blemished-bullets/shopby/f/isAjax/1.html
Thanks for the info. I'll put it on my favorites. They are out of the ones I would buy but at 9.99 it's no wonder.0 -
I check the site everyday. I have been shooting a good amount of the 77 grain OTM's and I am very pleased with the performance. 14 bucks per bag compared to 30 bucks for SMK's and they shoot great out of my rifles. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
Shooters Pro Shop. They are selling for 12.95 a bag now. I signed up for email alerts on their specials. They will have sales and free shipping, from time to time. They sell all kinds of stuff, but I have only ever ordered the blems (cosmetic only).
Link for blem bullet page. Pick your caliber on the left menu.
http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-products/nosler-blemished-2nds/nosler-blemished-bullets/shopby/f/isAjax/1.html
Good info! (about blem bullets)
Thanks0 -
I've been using Sierra's 55gr HPBT for a while now in my Swift (Remington 700 Classic), and it's one of the most accurate bullets I've used in it. Most of my work with it has been bullets in the 40-50gr weights, and it has always done well with them, but the 55's have really been an eyeopener. 1/4 to 1/2 moa with boring regularity.[:)]
https://www.sierrabullets.com/store/product.cfm/sn/1390/224-dia-55-gr-HPBT0
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