I like Cruz
The more I see and hear from him, the more I like him. Initially, I was leaning more toward Carson, but in recent weeks I've decided I like Cruz more than anyone.
I love his stance on 2A particularly.[:)]
I love his stance on 2A particularly.[:)]
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quote:Originally posted by droptop
Cruz makes statements containing "half truths" or worse.
Cruz seems prone to selecting a few words and building his response which he "contorted" into an OUT OF CONTEXT FALSE STATEMENT. ie: lie
Cruz said:
"he's described Hillary Clinton as... one of the best secretaries of state in history.
Trump in 2015
But, Unnoted by Cruz, Trump has most recently been critical of Clinton's work, calling her one of the country's worst secretaries of state. On July 8, 2015, he sent a statement to the Business Insider calling Clinton "the worst secretary of state in the history of the United States."
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/mar/08/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-best-secreta/
Is this "lying Cruz" or just "Don't mention the facts Cruz"?
So Cruz is a liar because he did NOT include Trumps current stand. The current position was not the issue. It's not an opponent's job to emphasize Trumps CURRENT position.
Did you follow your link?
The first clip is from a 2012 Fox News interview, where he says, "Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her."
The second clip shows Trump saying of Clinton during an interview, "I know her very well. I know her husband very well. I like them both and they're just really terrific people. I like them both very much, but I think you'll be looking at the record of Hillary Clinton and how did she do as secretary of state-probably above and beyond everybody else and everything else. I don't know if Benghazi resonated like it should have. A lot of people are going to be looking at Hillary's record as secretary of state and she will be defending that record. I'm sure she'll do a good job defending it.."
So Cruz is the liar because:
He said Trump praise Clinton before he criticized her.
or
That Trump supported the Assault weapons ban (longer waiting time) before he was a second amendment advocate.
or
That Trump provided campaign financial support to progressives before he claimed to be a conservative.
or
That Trump praised the ACA and single payer health care before he wanted to replace it (with something you will really, really like).
or
How Trump supports Planned Parenthood yet opposes abortion.
So who is the liar. Cruz or the NEW and IMPROVED Trump.
By the way Trump is loaning the money to his campaign, loans are repaid.0 -
quote:Originally posted by casper1947
quote:Originally posted by droptop
Cruz makes statements containing "half truths" or worse.
Cruz seems prone to selecting a few words and building his response which he "contorted" into an OUT OF CONTEXT FALSE STATEMENT. ie: lie
Cruz said:
"he's described Hillary Clinton as... one of the best secretaries of state in history.
Trump in 2015
But, Unnoted by Cruz, Trump has most recently been critical of Clinton's work, calling her one of the country's worst secretaries of state. On July 8, 2015, he sent a statement to the Business Insider calling Clinton "the worst secretary of state in the history of the United States."
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/mar/08/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-best-secreta/
Is this "lying Cruz" or just "Don't mention the facts Cruz"?
So Cruz is a liar because he did NOT include Trumps current stand. The current position was not the issue. It's not an opponent's job to emphasize Trumps CURRENT position.
Did you follow your link?
The first clip is from a 2012 Fox News interview, where he says, "Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her."
The second clip shows Trump saying of Clinton during an interview, "I know her very well. I know her husband very well. I like them both and they're just really terrific people. I like them both very much, but I think you'll be looking at the record of Hillary Clinton and how did she do as secretary of state-probably above and beyond everybody else and everything else. I don't know if Benghazi resonated like it should have. A lot of people are going to be looking at Hillary's record as secretary of state and she will be defending that record. I'm sure she'll do a good job defending it.."
So Cruz is the liar because:
He said Trump praise Clinton before he criticized her.
or
That Trump supported the Assault weapons ban (longer waiting time) before he was a second amendment advocate.
or
That Trump provided campaign financial support to progressives before he claimed to be a conservative.
or
That Trump praised the ACA and single payer health care before he wanted to replace it (with something you will really, really like).
or
How Trump supports Planned Parenthood yet opposes abortion.
So who is the liar. Cruz or the NEW and IMPROVED Trump.
By the way Trump is loaning the money to his campaign, loans are repaid.
Exactly. Trump supporters have nothing else to use against Cruz, so they just follow their leader (blindly) using his playground tactics of "nanny nanny boo boo on you".0 -
Cruz has a problem with the truth, he either BELIEVES Harry Reid LOVES Trump or is a liar. The former indicates he is unfit to become the president of a Hot Dog stand or has a problem with reality.
CRUZ interview remark:
Then he (CRUZ) added, "There's a reason (Senate Democratic Leader) Harry Reid, when asked about the Republican field, said the Republican he likes the best is Donald Trump, and he said, because I can work with him. He'll cut deals. We've had too many deals in Washington.
The TRUTH:
On Jan. 27 - one day after Trump said he got along well with Reid and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on MSNBC's Morning Joe -
Reid told reporters at an impromptu media availability, "Look, we've gotten along fine," referring to Trump. "With that bunch of people running, I'm kind of pulling for him." Reid said Jokingly.
Reid also said, "Oh, I remember the good old days when he did a fundraiser or two for me."
Apparently realizing that his words could be misconstrued, Reid took to the Senate floor the next day (Jan. 28th), seeking to clarify that he had only been joking about "pulling for" Trump in the presidential race.
Cruz made his comment ONE MONTH after Harry Reid had said the comment was a JOKE.
So,, Clueless Cruz or should it be CARPET BOMB CRUZ would say anything to advance his campaign or is acting like a pathological liar or both.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/02/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-wrongly-says-senate-democratic-leader-har/0 -
"Cruzzzzz can't handle the truth"!....now he wants to "Carpet Bomb" ISIS!....Dam, where does he come up with that stuff??? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by droptop
Cruz has a problem with the truth, he either BELIEVES Harry Reid LOVES Trump or is a liar. The former indicates he is unfit to become the president of a Hot Dog stand or has a problem with reality.
CRUZ interview remark:
Then he (CRUZ) added, "There's a reason (Senate Democratic Leader) Harry Reid, when asked about the Republican field, said the Republican he likes the best is Donald Trump, and he said, because I can work with him. He'll cut deals. We've had too many deals in Washington.
The TRUTH:
On Jan. 27 - one day after Trump said he got along well with Reid and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on MSNBC's Morning Joe -
Reid told reporters at an impromptu media availability, "Look, we've gotten along fine," referring to Trump. "With that bunch of people running, I'm kind of pulling for him." Reid said Jokingly.
Reid also said, "Oh, I remember the good old days when he did a fundraiser or two for me."
Apparently realizing that his words could be misconstrued, Reid took to the Senate floor the next day (Jan. 28th), seeking to clarify that he had only been joking about "pulling for" Trump in the presidential race.
Cruz made his comment ONE MONTH after Harry Reid had said the comment was a JOKE.
So,, Clueless Cruz or should it be CARPET BOMB CRUZ would say anything to advance his campaign or is acting like a pathological liar or both.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/02/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-wrongly-says-senate-democratic-leader-har/
Get a grip man. It's not a lie to see through someone like Harry Nosebleed's comments. If you believe it was actually a "joke", as Reid claims you have bigger problems than not liking Cruz. Feel free to not like Cruz for whatever reason you want, but your easily disproven claims of "liar" are tiresome, particularly when the "evidence" you continue to cite as proof continues to prove the exact opposite. It seems it's you that has a real problem with facts.0 -
Not going to REPLY to your entire quote, too long.
Quote: Casper1947:
The second clip shows Trump saying of Clinton during an interview, "I know her very well. I know her husband very well. I like them both and they're just really terrific people. I like them both very much, but I think you'll be looking at the record of Hillary Clinton and how did she do as secretary of state-probably above and beyond everybody else and everything else. I don't know if Benghazi resonated like it should have. A lot of people are going to be looking at Hillary's record as secretary of state and she will be defending that record. I'm sure she'll do a good job defending it.."
Those words are in many articles,, and in fairness the time was 2013, well before Trumps bid for president. Interesting to note the part highlighted in RED.
Nothing was intentionally left off,, the quote and date you reference was on my original link in it's entirety although it could be missed if you weren't looking for it.
Our transcript of Trump talking to Hunt on Aug. 10 or 11, 2013, about Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton:
Never (almost never) "cut and paste" without a reference LINK, along with a quote from that article. Think it helps people to determine if it's worth reading.0 -
Mr. Perfect:
This is your quote from above:
Get a grip man. It's not a lie to see through someone like Harry Nosebleed's comments. If you believe it was actually a "joke", as Reid claims you have bigger problems than not liking Cruz. Feel free to not like Cruz for whatever reason you want, but your easily disproven claims of "liar" are tiresome, particularly when the "evidence" you continue to cite as proof continues to prove the exact opposite. It seems it's you that has a real problem with facts.
Couple of things,, if you think Cruz IS NOT a liar because CRUZ can "see through" Harry Reid,, and it was NOT a joke,,
Then you are not what you seem. However some people ONLY learn visually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRrWEvSTR00 -
quote:Originally posted by droptop
Mr. Perfect:
This is your quote from above:
Get a grip man. It's not a lie to see through someone like Harry Nosebleed's comments. If you believe it was actually a "joke", as Reid claims you have bigger problems than not liking Cruz. Feel free to not like Cruz for whatever reason you want, but your easily disproven claims of "liar" are tiresome, particularly when the "evidence" you continue to cite as proof continues to prove the exact opposite. It seems it's you that has a real problem with facts.
Couple of things,, if you think Cruz IS NOT a liar because CRUZ can "see through" Harry Reid,, and it was NOT a joke,,
Then you are not what you seem. However some people ONLY learn visually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRrWEvSTR0
Again, here you are posting up evidence that supports MY position. Are you really that clueless?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by droptop
Mr. Perfect:
This is your quote from above:
Get a grip man. It's not a lie to see through someone like Harry Nosebleed's comments. If you believe it was actually a "joke", as Reid claims you have bigger problems than not liking Cruz. Feel free to not like Cruz for whatever reason you want, but your easily disproven claims of "liar" are tiresome, particularly when the "evidence" you continue to cite as proof continues to prove the exact opposite. It seems it's you that has a real problem with facts.
Couple of things,, if you think Cruz IS NOT a liar because CRUZ can "see through" Harry Reid,, and it was NOT a joke,,
Then you are not what you seem. However some people ONLY learn visually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRrWEvSTR0
Again, here you are posting up evidence that supports MY position. Are you really that clueless?
Cruzz went an done it again, attacking Donalds wife!0 -
What ***** Cruz Said:
A couple of debates ago, (Donald Trump) said if you don't support socialized health care, you're heartless."
- Ted Cruz on Thursday, February 25th, 2016 in the Republican debate in Houston, Texas
Context of ***** Cruz Statement
"For decades, Donald has been advocating socialized medicine," Cruz said. "What he said is the government should pay for everyone's health care. And in fact, a couple of debates ago, he said if you don't support socialized health care, you're heartless."
Did Trump say ANYTHING close to this during a debate?
NO
Cruz was NOT Truthful. Some would say he's a *****, ~~'~.
and
Ham: "Mr. Trump, you have said you want to repeal Obamacare. You have also said, quote, `Everybody's got to be covered,' adding, quote, `The government's going to pay for it.' Are you closer to Bernie Sanders' vision for health care than Hillary Clinton's?"
Trump: "I don't think I am. I think I'm closer to common sense. We are going to repeal Obamacare. We're going to repeal Obamacare. We are going to replace Obamacare with something so much better."
Our ruling
Cruz said that Trump said in a recent debate that "if you don't support socialized health care, you're heartless." Trump did not say those words, or anything like them, in any recent debate.
****** Cruz made it up.
He (TRUMP) advanced the idea of more competition among private insurance companies, and he said that government should take care of those who can't afford insurance.
While there was a time in the past when Trump supported a single-payer plan, there's no substance to Cruz's statement.
WE RATE IT
Total Article: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/25/ted-cruz/cruz-invents-trump-statement-socialized-medicine/0 -
Well, recent developments indicate that Cruz is a dork. 0 -
I didn't know Cruz was Mormon til the latest news about all his women. 0 -
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/02/rick-perry/donald-trump-still-single-payer-health-care/
"Trump has been a vocal opponent of the Affordable Care Act, but his general stance on health care is much murkier."
"During his short-lived flirtation with a 2000 Reform Party presidential bid, Trump supported universal health care without ambiguity, and he voiced support for a single-payer system in several instances.
"If you can't take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it's all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare," Trump told CNN's Larry King in October 1999.
"I would put forth a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes, " Trump told The Advocate right before he dropped out of the race in February 2000.
"The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. . We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing," Trump writes in his 2000 book The America We Deserve.
Trump has said very little about single-payer health care since 2000, according to our search of the LexisNexis database."
This also included his praise for the Scottish system.
AND
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-heart-healthcare-everybody/2016/01/31/id/712069/
"In previous comments Trump said he backed a single-payer, universal healthcare system paid for by the government.
Trump cited the healthcare systems of Canada and Britain as models for the U.S. Conservatives have noted that both systems are socialized medical programs that limit and ration care, especially for the elderly."
ALSO
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/01/donald-trump-inadvertently-advocates0 -
quote:Originally posted by casper1947
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/02/rick-perry/donald-trump-still-single-payer-health-care/
"Trump has been a vocal opponent of the Affordable Care Act, but his general stance on health care is much murkier."
"During his short-lived flirtation with a 2000 Reform Party presidential bid, Trump supported universal health care without ambiguity, and he voiced support for a single-payer system in several instances.
"If you can't take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it's all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare," Trump told CNN's Larry King in October 1999.
"I would put forth a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes, " Trump told The Advocate right before he dropped out of the race in February 2000.
"The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. . We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing," Trump writes in his 2000 book The America We Deserve.
Trump has said very little about single-payer health care since 2000, according to our search of the LexisNexis database."
This also included his praise for the Scottish system.
AND
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-heart-healthcare-everybody/2016/01/31/id/712069/
"In previous comments Trump said he backed a single-payer, universal healthcare system paid for by the government.
Trump cited the healthcare systems of Canada and Britain as models for the U.S. Conservatives have noted that both systems are socialized medical programs that limit and ration care, especially for the elderly."
ALSO
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/01/donald-trump-inadvertently-advocates
Have renewed faith someone would spend time to review posts and reply with links to articles supporting their position.
Comments on the first part (red text) of post.
SOME of the referenced information was quoted in 2000 and difficult to review quickly and less relevant than what Trump has said in the last few years. However it's still important.
Definition:
Single-payer healthcare is a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all healthcare costs.
"Single Payer" could have been Trumps position in the past (Aug 6, 2015) and most damming was TRUMPS approval of the Canadian System (and Scottish).in the August 25th Debate, "murky" was used and is a good analogy to what he's said.
We all should know Canadas system is OK for routine office visits and care but "sucks big time" if there is need of an operation or specialized care BEFORE YOU DIE !!! The richer Canadians go to the U.S. and India for required care.
To avoid reading the entire debate (link below), Use ctrl F to bring up the "find" window. Enter Trump and hit return. There are 78 refererences found. Then use the "down" arrow key on the window to go to #25 and read the paragraphs below that point in the text.
Link to Washington Post anointed "TEXT" of the debate below.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/06/annotated-transcript-the-aug-6-gop-debate/
This is a also a good way to find out if: xxxxx said xxxx, go to the text of the debate or ??? or webpage in general, enter in a portion or a few words and SEE the context or if it even exists.
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LATEST clarification on Trumps position. Probably best to use his WRITTEN, latest,, greatest, undeniable, unedited, uncommented, clear position on health care.
Trumps position on health care reform is posted on his website: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform0 -
Cruz has some balls, he expects to win NY after calling them class less!
Since the upstate is less liberal then the city he may0 -
quote:Originally posted by hobo9650
I didn't know Cruz was Mormon til the latest news about all his women.
Seems I'm in the same boat, Didn't know Cruz was an Attorney until today.
What is said about Attorneys (apology to attorneys),,
99% of the attorney make the rest look bad.
Explains this article about his 2013 stance on immigration:
Quote: It's a good story, and the immigration fight tells us a lot about Cruz. But the fight didn't happen the way he says it did. Cruz didn't marshal the opposition or even take a firm stand. He's a lawyer, not a leader. He chose his words exquisitely so that down the road-say, in a future campaign for president-he could position himself on either side of the immigration debate. And he delivered, with angelic piety, speeches that he now claims were lies.
Doubt he ever considered there would be someone in the future who would constantly call him a ****.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/01/ted_cruz_may_be_the_most_gifted_liar_ever_to_run_for_president.html?wpsrc=sp_all_article_storypromo0 -
quote:Originally posted by hobo9650
I didn't know Cruz was Mormon til the latest news about all his women.
Oficially, Mormons stopped the practice of multiple wives and that might be where the idea Cruz is a Morman originated or it was a joke.
Cruz is a Southern Baptist. Linked is a article: 5 faith facts about Ted Cruz.
http://www.religionnews.com/2016/01/31/cruz-religion-evangelical-religious-liberty/0 -
quote:Originally posted by casper1947
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/02/rick-perry/donald-trump-still-single-payer-health-care/
"Trump has been a vocal opponent of the Affordable Care Act, but his general stance on health care is much murkier."
"During his short-lived flirtation with a 2000 Reform Party presidential bid, Trump supported universal health care without ambiguity, and he voiced support for a single-payer system in several instances.
"If you can't take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it's all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare," Trump told CNN's Larry King in October 1999.
"I would put forth a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes, " Trump told The Advocate right before he dropped out of the race in February 2000.
"The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. . We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing," Trump writes in his 2000 book The America We Deserve.
Trump has said very little about single-payer health care since 2000, according to our search of the LexisNexis database."
This also included his praise for the Scottish system.
AND
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-heart-healthcare-everybody/2016/01/31/id/712069/
"In previous comments Trump said he backed a single-payer, universal healthcare system paid for by the government.
Trump cited the healthcare systems of Canada and Britain as models for the U.S. Conservatives have noted that both systems are socialized medical programs that limit and ration care, especially for the elderly."
ALSO
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/01/donald-trump-inadvertently-advocates
It's hard to pin down what Trump believes. He changes his story depending upon who he's talking to and what he wants from them.0 -
...not hard to pin down Cruz!.....Lies, and more lies!...he is a shill for the Democrats...destroy whats left of the GOP!....Attorneys know about money,they steal enough from the marks! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
...not hard to pin down Cruz!.....Lies, and more lies!...he is a shill for the Democrats...destroy whats left of the GOP!....Attorneys know about money,they steal enough from the marks!
Yet without any evidence of that, you're just pissing in the wind. Give it a rest.0 -
I like Cruz also but I don't think he can win the NE. If you can't win the NE part of the country you can't win the general election. 0 -
no one's mind is going to change in the forums.
I am tired of providing links to "FACTS and getting responses that parrot Trump and his handbook.
RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive."
RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Look it up.
Trump couldn't give the role of Government. His answers were close to the Democrat positions.0 -
Giuliani just endorsed Trump. Let me see if I got this straight. Trump is a bigot but Carson and Herman Cain are both endorsing him so they are bigots also Right? Nobody will vote for him but he's 200 points ahead of everybody else. Right? Trump is against the 2nd amendment but he is a life member of the NRA and so are his sons and they all have CC permits for NY the hardest place to get one. Right? Trump is stupid but he made billion dollars in a very hostile environment for business. Right.
Now for Cruz. I like Cruz but I don't understand how he will abolish the IRS when the president can not make a law of repeal one and every member of the senate on both dislikes or hates him. somebody please explain this to me. By the way, has he ever gotten anything through the Senate?0 -
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
Giuliani just endorsed Trump. Let me see if I got this straight. Trump is a bigot but Carson and Herman Cain are both endorsing him so they are bigots also Right? Nobody will vote for him but he's 200 points ahead of everybody else. Right? Trump is against the 2nd amendment but he is a life member of the NRA and so are his sons and they all have CC permits for NY the hardest place to get one. Right? Trump is stupid but he made billion dollars in a very hostile environment for business. Right.
Now for Cruz. I like Cruz but I don't understand how he will abolish the IRS when the president can not make a law of repeal one and every member of the senate on both dislikes or hates him. somebody please explain this to me. By the way, has he ever gotten anything through the Senate?
Folks, the quoted post above is an excellent example of straw man argument. Take note. It's about the clearest example you will ever find.0 -
Straw man maybe but a very good and logical one. The statement about a straw man argument does not answer the question about how Cruz will abolish the IRS. It is only a diversion because you cannot explain or come up with the answer. It does not explain any of the other things I stated either. Those straw man questions kind of shot down all your detrimental statement about Trump HUH? Trump has plenty of faults but so does Cruz. Cruz is saying things he knows he can't do. I also caught Trump in a lie yesterday. Nobody is an angel in this rat race.
The way I see it, it's a matter of who the people think can get the most done to help the middle class. Trump is the only one who can't be bought. Cruz is OK. Hillary is a disaster in progress. Bernie is a Joke but a serious one. Anybody who even knows what socialism is knows it doesn't ever work. Socialism is an impossible system sold by evil people and bought by the ignorant. Socialism is guaranteed poverty.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
Straw man maybe but a very good and logical one. The statement about a straw man argument does not answer the question about how Cruz will abolish the IRS. It is only a diversion because you cannot explain or come up with the answer. It does not explain any of the other things I stated either. Those straw man questions kind of shot down all your detrimental statement about Trump HUH? Trump has plenty of faults but so does Cruz. Cruz is saying things he knows he can't do. I also caught Trump in a lie yesterday. Nobody is an angel in this rat race.
The way I see it, it's a matter of who the people think can get the most done to help the middle class. Trump is the only one who can't be bought. Cruz is OK. Hillary is a disaster in progress. Bernie is a Joke but a serious one. Anybody who even knows what socialism is knows it doesn't ever work. Socialism is an impossible system sold by evil people and bought by the ignorant. Socialism is guaranteed poverty.
Let me know if you ever decide you want to be acquainted with reality. There are folks that can help you with that journey.0 -
Apparently Mr. Perfect, you can't answer the question of how Cruz is going to abolish the IRS. But you are pretty good at insulting comments and disparaging remarks. All this proves that you are not interested in having a conversation for constructive purposes. He just can't bring himself to say he doesn't know.
Just try and insult me again. Everybody will understand.
PS- This is beginning to bore me. I have to go give my dog algebra lessons.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
Apparently Mr. Perfect, you can't answer the question of how Cruz is going to abolish the IRS. But you are pretty good at insulting comments and disparaging remarks. All this proves that you are not interested in having a conversation for constructive purposes. He just can't bring himself to say he doesn't know.
Just try and insult me again. Everybody will understand.
Maybe you care to explain why you keep bringing that issue up ad nauseum. So far as I can tell, you're the only one who cares one iota about the non-issue. But I won't hold my breath waiting for any sensible answer from an individual who thinks a straw man argument is "very good and logical".[:o)][:o)]0 -
Internal Revenue Services
Americans spend far too much time, energy, and resources answering to the agency whose harmful conduct extends far beyond collecting large portions of the people's hard-earned dollars-top IRS officials have targeted individuals based on their political and religious views and threatened their First Amendment rights. The IRS has become a partisan arm of the Obama Administration and an avenue for the Washington Cartel to further benefit its members, to the detriment of working Americans.
Essential to abolishing the IRS is wiping clean the cob-webbed tax code and starting over with the Cruz Simple Flat Tax, which sets one low rate of 10 percent for all individuals and enables them to fill out their taxes on a postcard or smartphone app. The Simple Flat Tax also taxes all businesses at the same, fair Business Flat Tax of 16 percent, removing the loopholes and backhanded funding of big businesses and special interests. The Simple Flat Tax fundamentally changes the tax code and abolishes the IRS as we know it. The remaining personnel needed can be housed in a drastically smaller division of the Department of Treasury.
https://www.tedcruz.org/five-for-freedom/
Along the same line I was wondering how Trump would apply his 35%~45% tariffs? And how would this benefit seniors and those on fixed income?
As for the wall (in which I am in favor of) do we wait for funding from Mexico to start or does the taxpayer fund it with a hope of reimbursement in the future?0
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