European Black Powder ?s

SP45

June 18, 2017 15:43

When you buy a collection you get all kinds of stuff. I ended up with several early pistols. I know that these would shoot. The second two photos are a side by side 40 cal smooth bore. The barrels screw off for cleaning. The barrels are proofed the same as the frame. Anyone know where they were made, when and any idea of value.

The first two is a Belgian made with nice engraving and a very nice damascus barrel. .36 cal smooth bore. I figure 1830 to 1850? but that is a guess too. Same questions as the first. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/a/lpv97

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  rufe-snow

  June 18, 2017 16:21

  The Crown over U proof marks are German. But they came into use, years after the pistol was originally made, circa 1835/1865? Must have been sold used in Germany, after the 1890's, when the proof marks became required.
  
  Or the proofmarks are Spanish phoney's? To make it appear the the pistol, was made in Germany. Double barreled pistols, were very popular in South America. Making a Spanish made pistol appear to have been made in Germany. Would have made it much more sale able.
  
  
  
  
  Edit #1,
  
  One of the mods, Spider. Is a member on another gun forum dealing with antique guns. He might be able to help you with values. I've been out of touch with the BP market, for quite awhile.
  
  From your photos, neither appear to be high dollar items. More on the order, as being decorative wall hangers or conversation pieces.

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  Hawk Carse

  June 18, 2017 17:57

  The 1911 ALFA catalog - Adolf Frank, Hamburg, Germany
  still listed these little double screw barrel percussion pistols.
  5 to 8 marks depending on how fancy you want to get.

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