The Taxman Cometh Soon!
Just a little reminder that the government is watching and soon the little guy will be in the snare.
serf
From Amazon
Alabama If tax is not collected on your order, the state of Alabama requires that an Alabama purchaser file a sales and use tax return at the end of the year. This sales and use tax return is to report all taxable purchases that were not taxed and to pay the taxes associated with those purchases. The purchase is not exempt from Alabama sales or use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Colorado If tax is not collected on your order, the state of Colorado requires that a Colorado purchaser file a sales and use tax return at the end of the year. This sales and use tax is to report all taxable purchases that were not taxed and to pay the taxes associated with those purchases. The purchase is not exempt from Colorado sales or use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Kentucky You may owe Kentucky use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. You can pay Kentucky use tax directly to the Department of Revenue on purchases if they are not otherwise exempt.
Louisiana You may owe Louisiana use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. Louisiana law requires that use tax be paid annually on the individual income tax return or through other means. The purchase is not exempt from Louisiana use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Oklahoma Tax may be reported and paid on the Oklahoma individual income tax return [Form 511] or by filing a consumer use tax return [Form 21-1]. The referenced forms and corresponding instructions are available on the Oklahoma Tax Commission website.
Puerto Rico You may owe Puerto Rico use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. You can file an Import Declaration and Tax on Imports Monthly Return and report and pay any use tax due.
South Carolina You may owe South Carolina use tax on your purchase based on the total sales price of the purchase. You may visit www.sctax.org to pay the use tax or you may report and pay the tax on your South Carolina Income Tax form.
South Dakota Tax may be reported and paid on the South Dakota use tax form. The use tax form and corresponding instructions are available on the South Dakota Department of Revenue website.
Vermont You may owe Vermont use tax on your purchase if tax is not collected on your order. The state of Vermont requires that a Vermont purchaser pay use tax due on nonexempt purchases on his or her tax return.
serf
From Amazon
Alabama If tax is not collected on your order, the state of Alabama requires that an Alabama purchaser file a sales and use tax return at the end of the year. This sales and use tax return is to report all taxable purchases that were not taxed and to pay the taxes associated with those purchases. The purchase is not exempt from Alabama sales or use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Colorado If tax is not collected on your order, the state of Colorado requires that a Colorado purchaser file a sales and use tax return at the end of the year. This sales and use tax is to report all taxable purchases that were not taxed and to pay the taxes associated with those purchases. The purchase is not exempt from Colorado sales or use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Kentucky You may owe Kentucky use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. You can pay Kentucky use tax directly to the Department of Revenue on purchases if they are not otherwise exempt.
Louisiana You may owe Louisiana use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. Louisiana law requires that use tax be paid annually on the individual income tax return or through other means. The purchase is not exempt from Louisiana use tax merely because it is made over the Internet.
Oklahoma Tax may be reported and paid on the Oklahoma individual income tax return [Form 511] or by filing a consumer use tax return [Form 21-1]. The referenced forms and corresponding instructions are available on the Oklahoma Tax Commission website.
Puerto Rico You may owe Puerto Rico use tax on your purchase if tax was not collected on your order. You can file an Import Declaration and Tax on Imports Monthly Return and report and pay any use tax due.
South Carolina You may owe South Carolina use tax on your purchase based on the total sales price of the purchase. You may visit www.sctax.org to pay the use tax or you may report and pay the tax on your South Carolina Income Tax form.
South Dakota Tax may be reported and paid on the South Dakota use tax form. The use tax form and corresponding instructions are available on the South Dakota Department of Revenue website.
Vermont You may owe Vermont use tax on your purchase if tax is not collected on your order. The state of Vermont requires that a Vermont purchaser pay use tax due on nonexempt purchases on his or her tax return.
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Think I'll look for something to buy from Alabama and then find out how much tax is owned and/or how to pay. I'd imagine less if the item was used, or maybe NONE. Need to know about double taxation, how would I know tax was paid or not?
Where to write to find out answers.
Alabama Department of Revenue
50 North Ripley Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
Where I am all prices include the tax. Some give receipts that show how much tax was paid but it's not necessary. I'd bet half the people don't even know they are paying a tax.
How would they contact me, there is not a postal system? They'd need to send a reply Fedx or other courier service.
Looks like roblems,, I mean problems.0 -
The taxman is always coming. Having a good accountant is the answer. 0 -
It's also required to pay sales tax for anything you bought online in California. It's been a law in many states for years. Never head of anyone being caught for not paying it.
Sky falling averted.0 -
At least you are adding a little variety to your constant worrying. It's nice to see you fret about something besides AI for a change. 0 -
Doesn't matter anymore. The debt bomb is more problematic than the taxman hands in our pockets. We always know that the city, county, state, and federal governments all have their tax collectors and sadly they never seem to have enough money. The real problem is the excessive spending that takes place and the resultant debt that accrues. In 2018 the cost to service just the national debt will be $498 billion dollars. Think about that for a minute..........just interest payments and not one dollar to principal. Add in student loan debt, auto loans, consumer credit obligations, city, county, and state debt. Debt is destroying this country. 0 -
As noted by others, many if not most states have these laws on the books already.
If a company has a physical presence in a state, online purchases from that company are already taxed.
In many states, items purchased online that are shipped to a business (such as an FFL) rather than the in individual directly are taxed before the buyer can take possession.
Automobiles or other items that have to be licensed are taxed by the licensing state when bought from out of state.
If you choose to live in a state with a sales tax, one can expect to eventually be charged that sales tax when purchasing from out of state. The fact that enforcement is currently difficult does not change the fact that the laws are on the books, and that operating outside them puts one in breach.
I am not a big fan of this, but consider that the owner of a mom-and-pop retail business that has to charge 8% sales tax when an out of state retail giant is exempt, one can see that there is a valid reason for the collection to protect local business.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
As noted by others, many if not most states have these laws on the books already.
If a company has a physical presence in a state, online purchases from that company are already taxed.
In many states, items purchased online that are shipped to a business (such as an FFL) rather than the in individual directly are taxed before the buyer can take possession.
Automobiles or other items that have to be licensed are taxed by the licensing state when bought from out of state.
If you choose to live in a state with a sales tax, one can expect to eventually be charged that sales tax when purchasing from out of state. The fact that enforcement is currently difficult does not change the fact that the laws are on the books, and that operating outside them puts one in breach.
I am not a big fan of this, but consider that the owner of a mom-and-pop retail business that has to charge 8% sales tax when an out of state retail giant is exempt, one can see that there is a valid reason for the collection to protect local business.
With Democrats in charge and Free illegal immigration for all then it's just not mom and pop stores getting benefits on collecting taxes.
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Indiana has had a similar law on the books for decades. I don't know anyone that has entered any purchases on their state income tax form. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
As noted by others, many if not most states have these laws on the books already.
If a company has a physical presence in a state, online purchases from that company are already taxed.
In many states, items purchased online that are shipped to a business (such as an FFL) rather than the in individual directly are taxed before the buyer can take possession.
Automobiles or other items that have to be licensed are taxed by the licensing state when bought from out of state.
If you choose to live in a state with a sales tax, one can expect to eventually be charged that sales tax when purchasing from out of state. The fact that enforcement is currently difficult does not change the fact that the laws are on the books, and that operating outside them puts one in breach.
I am not a big fan of this, but consider that the owner of a mom-and-pop retail business that has to charge 8% sales tax when an out of state retail giant is exempt, one can see that there is a valid reason for the collection to protect local business.
With Democrats in charge and Free illegal immigration for all then it's just not mom and pop stores getting benefits on collecting taxes.
serf
You do understand that these are State Sales taxes and have nothing to do with the Federal Government, do you not?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
As noted by others, many if not most states have these laws on the books already.
If a company has a physical presence in a state, online purchases from that company are already taxed.
In many states, items purchased online that are shipped to a business (such as an FFL) rather than the in individual directly are taxed before the buyer can take possession.
Automobiles or other items that have to be licensed are taxed by the licensing state when bought from out of state.
If you choose to live in a state with a sales tax, one can expect to eventually be charged that sales tax when purchasing from out of state. The fact that enforcement is currently difficult does not change the fact that the laws are on the books, and that operating outside them puts one in breach.
I am not a big fan of this, but consider that the owner of a mom-and-pop retail business that has to charge 8% sales tax when an out of state retail giant is exempt, one can see that there is a valid reason for the collection to protect local business.
With Democrats in charge and Free illegal immigration for all then it's just not mom and pop stores getting benefits on collecting taxes.
serf
You do understand that these are State Sales taxes and have nothing to do with the Federal Government, do you not?
Yes, I do but do you understand how The USA government hands out great sums of cash to help some states with grants? Now if those states can recover large sums of tax funds that were non-existence from the collection of the internet then it would slow down Federal spending to some states and give the Fed's more time to prop up the dollar by going into even more debt.
In the 1950's the US government took large slices of FICA taxes from it's citizens but back then our dollar was King in the world of fiat money but not so much anymore. With 22 trillion in debt now with the petrodollar on its knees and the interest paid on that debt climbing and they keep spending as there is no end or reckoning coming.
All fiat money in history has always reverted back to Zero summation.
serf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_grants_in_the_United_States
http://www.truthistreason.net/a-look-at-the-past-all-fiat-currencies-collapse-and-fail0 -
The sales tax people are so screwy.....at least here in Alabama they are.
I will get royally hosed by this eventually I'm sure. When this all started for me I got a business license, tax ID number and FFL.....someone from Alabama Dept of Revenue sent me an email saying I needed to set up an on line account and file my sales tax collected every month (even if it was no money collected.) She had a "contact me for questions" phone number on the message. So I called. She walked me through how to do everything. I felt like such a grown up.....like I was doing something only the bravest, most responsible, business owner would do and it didn't take any tuition to any institution to do it. Wasn't I smart!
Proceed on several...SEVERAL....years later and an auditor shows up at my back door. No problem....I've been doing EXACTLY what they said to do allllllll these years.
Well.....after a full afternoon of digging through every single bit of paper I have saved from my sales tax the guy informs me something is wrong. Yep......wrong.
I had been filing wrong every month for many years and I owed them the difference between what I had filed and what I actually owed. It didn't matter that they were the ones that told me how to do it. So, I owed them several thousands in back sales tax. I agreed to pay a monthly payment so I didn't have to come up with it all at once.
I'm NOT looking forward to what stupidity they come up with as far as the internet sales go. I ship things to people who have to pay tax on their end from time to time. I don't know what they are going to say about what I do now???? Whatever it is.....I'm sure I'll do something wrong and somehow owe them money again. I hate this mess.
It makes people think just trying to have a business is IMPOSSIBLE.0 -
Even if the giant retailers collected sales taxes from every state, it would not stop the demise of mom and pop retailers.
Mon and pops stores that sell in the strip malls in the cities have pay licenses, privilege fees, business property taxes which are higher than personal property taxes, they must be bonded and insured at what cities mandate, they have to comply with costly city/state regulations, and a myriad of unique taxes & regs locale specific.
Bezos and large giant retailers are smart. They build warehouses outside city limits where egregious tax crazed DEMOCRATs do not prey on them.
Mom and pop stores have to charge much more to make up for the cost of government oppression.
Giant retailers do not, low overhead, less government, little taxes and can sell for much less....Simple as that0 -
I purchased my Toyota 4Runner on Ebay from an out of state seller so I figured I would save on the sales tax but the city I live in sent me a notice that I owed them X amount for the use tax. I didn't know what a use tax was till then. The city watches for vehicles being registered for addresses within the city limits and even if I had purchased the vehicle from my next door neighbor the city would want their cut. The only way I could have gotten away with not paying it is if I had a receipt showing that I had paid sales tax where it was purchased. It's very frustrating when the government taxes our income and then makes us pay a tax when we purchase things with what's left and still the government spends more than it takes in.
We have politicians using tax money to fund projects or to redistribute tax money to get themselves re-elected, if we had term limits so that these people wouldn't have an incentive to do this maybe it would help.0 -
Wonder how it works in a no state tax state like Delaware.
maybe a "ship too" store there could accept packages then you drive over the border to pick them up.
$1000 in ammo would be a $70 savings on tax. Worth the drive from overtaxed NJ MD even PA.
Be a nice way to screw the taxocraps0 -
I'm confused as to what has changed for the small retailer as to collection of state sales tax. Am I supposed to set up accounts in other states to be able to submit their tax? Each state? All of the laws quoted are use tax statutes. That is on the person importing goods from out of state. Where is the authority for a state to require me, a one man operation with no inter-state nexus beyond selling on GunBroker, to act as their tax collector?
I know that many states are collecting sales tax on firearms transferred through FFL dealers. The dealers are required to collect the tax by the state Revenue division. They got us there, can't argue with the tax man. My state does not require tax on transfers.0 -
quote:Originally posted by serf
Yes, I do but do you understand how The USA government hands out great sums of cash to help some states with grants? Now if those states can recover large sums of tax funds that were non-existence from the collection of the internet then it would slow down Federal spending to some states and give the Fed's more time to prop up the dollar by going into even more debt.
In the 1950's the US government took large slices of FICA taxes from it's citizens but back then our dollar was King in the world of fiat money but not so much anymore. With 22 trillion in debt now with the petrodollar on its knees and the interest paid on that debt climbing and they keep spending as there is no end or reckoning coming.
All fiat money in history has always reverted back to Zero summation.
serf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_grants_in_the_United_States
http://www.truthistreason.net/a-look-at-the-past-all-fiat-currencies-collapse-and-fail
Sorry, serf. I cannot make the leap to the point where a state receiving less money from the Federal Government will increase the Federal debt.
FWIW, I do not see this a affecting in any way the amount of money received by individual states from the Federal Government. A lot of grant money is in matching funds. There is as much likelihood of an increase in State grants due to this as there is to decreased grants to states.
IOW, there is no direct impact upon Federal funding to individual states created by those states collecting sales tax on goods purchased by their citizens from out of state.0 -
quote:Originally posted by neatguns
I'm confused as to what has changed for the small retailer as to collection of state sales tax. Am I supposed to set up accounts in other states to be able to submit their tax? Each state? All of the laws quoted are use tax statutes. That is on the person importing goods from out of state. Where is the authority for a state to require me, a one man operation with no inter-state nexus beyond selling on GunBroker, to act as their tax collector?
I know that many states are collecting sales tax on firearms transferred through FFL dealers. The dealers are required to collect the tax by the state Revenue division. They got us there, can't argue with the tax man. My state does not require tax on transfers.
What you are describing has been the angst of many of the smaller internet sellers. In short, it boils down to the laws in you state.
Some states have set limits to less than X. That limit can be anywhere between 1K and 1M plus.
The DEMOCRATs tried to pass the internet sales tax when Obama was POTUS and it failed. The mandate to collect out of state sales tax ended up in the SCOTUS. SCOTUS approved the collections this year but never offered suggestion on how it should be done.
The original federal law stated purchase of EXPENSIVE software to automatically compute and tax out of state purchases thru bank transfers. This means anyone who sells on the internet to out of state buyers must buy software and use whatever bank government deems appropriate.
Basically sellers ended up having the FEDERAL GOVERMENT pick the banks and software (The Smell of Cronyism) internet merchants must use.
The original bill that failed set a FEDERAL limit of 1.5 million meaning unless your sales were over that figure, you need not comply. Also internet sellers would be subject to federal audits.
I am not in sales, but making me an unpaid tax collector for 50 states, 3007 counties and all the cites and jurisdiction within the USA does not go well with me at all.
There is at present no federal law YET, but keep in mind elections have consequences.0
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