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  • Mr. Perfect
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  • dfletcher
    A vote out of committee is supposedly set for this Friday, just a day after Ms. Ford is presumed to testify. As opposed to giving a little time, voting on Monday. I think that's interesting. Because if Ford hits a PR home run there's no chance for Kavanaugh to recover. Or, if Ford is a no show on Thursday the Republicans can say "oh well, gave her everything and she bailed" then vote straight away.

    A friend of mine says Ford won't testify out of concern she'll be asked questions about psychiatrist visits during which she discussed Kavanaugh. If that's the case, one would imagine Republicans mandated leaving that option open as a way to discourage her from appearing.

    It's easy to point a finger at Republicans now. But we should thank Harry Reid for opening this door. As Senate Majority leader he took the bar from 60 Senate votes to confirm (a number that most always demanded support from "the other side") to simple majority rule. By doing so Senator Reid made SCOTUS confirmation the purview of only the party in power in the Senate.

    The Senate is supposed to require co-operation. The Senate is supposed to go only so far as the minority party allows. The minority party is supposed to have a say in the result. Senator Reid closed that door and was told at the time that as was done in his favor would be done against him in spades.

    Let's heap some blame where it belongs - at the foot of Senator Reid and his contrived objections to "the party of no". As we're finding out now, you're supposed to pay attention to those who say no. Know matter how often or long they say it. That's how a constitutional republic is designed to function. That's how one sustains legitimacy.
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  • JamesRK
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    In fairness, she did have to wait for Mister Algore to invent the internet.
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  • droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Who didn't see this coming? Personal destruction, nothing less. If Kavanaugh wasn't a raging conservative zealot prior to his nomination, he will be now.

    Hopefully for another 50 years. He and Thomas will probably reminisce their confirmation hearings.

    The vote will be Friday and there will be some "weak" Democrat Senators up for reelection.

    Senators up for re-election in 2018
    DEMOCRATS (24)

    Tammy Baldwin (Wisconsin)
    Sherrod Brown (Ohio)
    Maria Cantwell (Washington)
    Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    Thomas Carper (Delaware)
    Robert Casey (Pennsylvania)
    Joe Donnelly (Indiana)
    Dianne Feinstein (California)
    Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)
    Martin Heinrich (New Mexico)
    Heidi Heitkamp (North Dakota)
    Mazie Hirono (Hawaii)
    Tim Kaine (Virginia)
    Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)
    Joe Manchin (West Virginia)
    Claire McCaskill (Missouri)
    Robert Menendez (New Jersey)
    Christopher Murphy (Connecticut)
    Bill Nelson (Florida)
    Tina Smith (Minnesota)
    Debbie Stabenow (Michigan)
    Jon Tester (Montana)
    Elizabeth Warren (Massachusetts)
    Sheldon Whitehouse (Rhode Island)

    INDEPENDENTS (2)

    Angus King (Maine)
    Bernie Sanders (Vermont)

    REPUBLICANS (9)

    John Barrasso (Wyoming)
    Bob Corker (Tennessee) Announced he will not seek re-election
    Ted Cruz (Texas)
    Deb Fischer (Nebraska)
    Jeff Flake (Arizona) Announced he will not seek re-election
    Orrin Hatch (Utah) Announced he will not seek re-election
    Dean Heller (Nevada)
    Cindy Hyde-Smith (Mississippi)
    Roger Wicker (Mississippi)
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  • Don McManus
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/26/kavanaugh-accuser-submits-four-declarations-from-people-says-corroborate-her-assault-allegations.html

    Fascinating:

    Ford says she has four people that can corroborate the assault.

    All four are people she told many years after the fact.

    Is this what passes for evidence today?

    You tell someone something 20+ years after an event it is now fact because you have to tell the other people in your inner circle so as to not leave anyone out?

    I think I am beginning to see the pattern here.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    When politics are at play, credibility is not an operative word. Kavanaugh should have known this, and plead that he was a democrat back when the events supposedly happened, and then there would be no issue.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    Did Kavenaugh just produce his calendar from '82? He did. He did indeed.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    OK Barz,
    Based on the information that is out there as of now, we are left with 2 choices:

    1) Kavanaugh was part of a secret roving gang rape squad in DC that was systemically violating women, without anyone ever bringing charges/going to authorities

    2) This is the most disgustingly dishonest, coordinated smear campaign in US history

    We all know what the answer is, do you?
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  • Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    OK Barz,
    Based on the information that is out there as of now, we are left with 2 choices:

    1) Kavanaugh was part of a secret roving gang rape squad in DC that was systemically violating women, without anyone ever bringing charges/going to authorities

    2) This is the most disgustingly dishonest, coordinated smear campaign in US history

    We all know what the answer is, do you?


    We know the answer, Barz knows the answer but he refuses to believe it because the left never lies.

    I just cannot believe that I am witnessing all of this knowing full well this is a lynching and people like Barz are eating it up and smiling. There needs to be hangings.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    OK Barz,
    Based on the information that is out there as of now, we are left with 2 choices:

    1) Kavanaugh was part of a secret roving gang rape squad in DC that was systemically violating women, without anyone ever bringing charges/going to authorities

    2) This is the most disgustingly dishonest, coordinated smear campaign in US history

    We all know what the answer is, do you?


    We know the answer, Barz knows the answer but he refuses to believe it because the left never lies.

    I just cannot believe that I am witnessing all of this knowing full well this is a lynching and people like Barz are eating it up and smiling. There needs to be hangings.
    Indeed. Oh, and in case there is any question as to what's transpired, to date here is a good summary:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/36373/no-kavanaugh-shouldnt-withdraw-serious-look-ben-shapiro
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  • dfletcher
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Who didn't see this coming? Personal destruction, nothing less. If Kavanaugh wasn't a raging conservative zealot prior to his nomination, he will be now.

    Hopefully for another 50 years. He and Thomas will probably reminisce their confirmation hearings.

    The vote will be Friday and there will be some "weak" Democrat Senators up for reelection.




    The Friday vote is in committee, not the full Senate - yes?
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Who didn't see this coming? Personal destruction, nothing less. If Kavanaugh wasn't a raging conservative zealot prior to his nomination, he will be now.

    Hopefully for another 50 years. He and Thomas will probably reminisce their confirmation hearings.

    The vote will be Friday and there will be some "weak" Democrat Senators up for reelection.




    The Friday vote is in committee, not the full Senate - yes?


    Correct. Full Senate is supposed to vote this weekend or Monday
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca


    Mighty ironic to quote the bible when the sole reason for the hysteria over Kavanaugh is his opposition to abortion.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca


    Mighty ironic to quote the bible when the sole reason for the hysteria over Kavanaugh is his opposition to abortion.


    Indeed. Particularly curious that Barz apparently needs to hear more. The allegation, as noted above is that Kavanaugh was part of an unreported roving gang rape squad. Seriously? This warrants some level of credibility in your eyes Barz?
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  • Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca


    Mighty ironic to quote the bible when the sole reason for the hysteria over Kavanaugh is his opposition to abortion.


    Indeed. Particularly curious that Barz apparently needs to hear more. The allegation, as noted above is that Kavanaugh was part of an unreported roving gang rape squad. Seriously? This warrants some level of credibility in your eyes Barz?


    It all has credibility to him, anything coming from the left against the right is credible in his eyes.
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  • 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca


    Mighty ironic to quote the bible when the sole reason for the hysteria over Kavanaugh is his opposition to abortion.










    Wow...................... Not only is that Spot on, but I believe that left a mark. If not it should have.



    (And) from a previous post, it should be Skank, not "Skunk."
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  • 35 Whelen
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca



    Proverbs 19:5

    A false witness will not go unpunished, and whoever pours out lies will not go free.
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  • Mr. Perfect
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  • Rack Ops
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  • Mr. Perfect
    Salty.
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  • Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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  • wiplash
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


    If you judge, investigate. Seneca


    Here comes the Religion. Are you giving in so soon?[:D]
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