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  • grumpygy
    Bought me a new Lowrider yesterday. Should be ready to go Thursday or Friday. I'm adding foward foot controls and custom pipes. Good looking bike. [:p][:p][:p][:p]

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  • jkbt1
    My brother just spent a buttload of money on a new limited edition Harley with that engine in it. Had to get it from a dealer over 5 hours away because of it being a limited , they weren't in every showroom. It did not even make the drive home before it started having serious issues! It's currently in a dealership and after being torn down and inspected , it's waiting for a new engine. So not much has changed with HD and although they look good ya still couldn't give one to me.

    Now we'll hear the "I have xx miles on mine and never had an issue" or "been riding HD all my life and never had problems with them" crowd and I'll say BS right up front! I've got lots of friends with all generations of HD's and every single one of them is nothing but a hole to throw money into! Wish I could have a marketing Dept like they do and have customers happy that they bought junk that doesn't work!
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by jkbt1
    My brother just spent a buttload of money on a new limited edition Harley with that engine in it. Had to get it from a dealer over 5 hours away because of it being a limited , they weren't in every showroom. It did not even make the drive home before it started having serious issues! It's currently in a dealership and after being torn down and inspected , it's waiting for a new engine. So not much has changed with HD and although they look good ya still couldn't give one to me.

    Now we'll hear the "I have xx miles on mine and never had an issue" or "been riding HD all my life and never had problems with them" crowd and I'll say BS right up front! I've got lots of friends with all generations of HD's and every single one of them is nothing but a hole to throw money into! Wish I could have a marketing Dept like they do and have customers happy that they bought junk that doesn't work!



    If you know what to do they will serve you just fine. Had the Stator go out on Mine I replaced it with a Better one. But it died in the driveway. My year had a problem with the Cam chain Tensioner eating the shoe off and blowing the whole system at about 35,000 miles. Changed mine out for a better system at 30,000. Lucky I did cause one shoe was almost gone. Put in a better system one that increased oil pressure and the chain tension is held by oil pressure not not a spring.

    Some had a problem over heating . This was caused by a too lean condition. So I put a tuner on I. But mine adjusts for conditions. My year did not have o2 sensors. I put wide band on mine with a new exhaust.

    So you are right but if smart they will function just fine. Plus mine now runes like a raped ape.[8D]
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  • shilowar
    Buy a first year model on any vehicle and you're asking to be a beta tester.
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  • alias
    I had a dealer tell me that he wouldn't buy a Milwaukee Eight until they've had a few years to work the bugs out. Remember the problems with the Evo cam bearing problems in the early 80" configuration?

    I currently ride an'05 twin cam. Other than the cam chain tensioners needing replaced at 30K it's been problem free. And I ride it like I stole it. Upgrade intake and exhaust and hotter cams and it runs well enough to suit me. I'd quit riding before I'd sell a Harley and start riding a sewing machine.

    My son-in-law has almost 60K on a 2015 Street Glide, with no problems whatsoever.

    I've also had a '68 ElectrGlide, a '73 shovel in a rigid frame that I rebuilt and could have ridden anywhere without fear, and a '51 bottom end with shovel heads in a '70s chopper frame with a jockey shift that I sold when I bought the '05 Wide Glide. The idiot I sold the '73 to (for $9000) knew better than me and leaned out the carburetor. And promptly burned up the top end. I haven't talked to him in years, but he probably talks down Harleys because he's a mechanical imbecile.

    Some guys can ride Harleys, some guys need to stay on their Hondas and BMWs because that's where they belong. A lot of the same people who talk crap about Harley Davidson either could never afford one (and so pay half or less what a Harley costs and think they got a deal) or are the same guys who pay a shop to change an alternator or serpentine belt on their daily driver.
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by alias
    I had a dealer tell me that he wouldn't buy a Milwaukee Eight until they've had a few years to work the bugs out. Remember the problems with the Evo cam bearing problems in the early 80" configuration?

    I currently ride an'05 twin cam. Other than the cam chain tensioners needing replaced at 30K it's been problem free. And I ride it like I stole it. Upgrade intake and exhaust and hotter cams and it runs well enough to suit me. I'd quit riding before I'd sell a Harley and start riding a sewing machine.

    My son-in-law has almost 60K on a 2015 Street Glide, with no problems whatsoever.

    I've also had a '68 ElectrGlide, a '73 shovel in a rigid frame that I rebuilt and could have ridden anywhere without fear, and a '51 bottom end with shovel heads in a '70s chopper frame with a jockey shift that I sold when I bought the '05 Wide Glide. The idiot I sold the '73 to (for $9000) knew better than me and leaned out the carburetor. And promptly burned up the top end. I haven't talked to him in years, but he probably talks down Harleys because he's a mechanical imbecile.

    Some guys can ride Harleys, some guys need to stay on their Hondas and BMWs because that's where they belong. A lot of the same people who talk crap about Harley Davidson either could never afford one (and so pay half or less what a Harley costs and think they got a deal) or are the same guys who pay a shop to change an alternator or serpentine belt on their daily driver.



    As I said above I had to change out the tensioner. But may take it to the shop when the drive belt needs replaced. Which I may just do at the next tire change. She is at 40,000 miles now with the 1st belt.

    Never have heard of one going bad from normal use. So I may just leave it.

    Funny thing My bike get right at 38.5 MPG. But that car of Mine the Chevy Cruze with a Diesel gets 39.5 running the AC.

    Its a 06 Heritage Classic
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  • merlinn
    Had an ?81? 80, super glide years ago. Wanted to shake itself apart. Rode it for a year or so and sold it.
    Sold my Cessna 170 last month and picked up a 2012 Sportster ?72? the same day.
    Beautiful ride but hopefully never leaves the ground!!

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  • lkannes
    I bought a new Harley Springer Softail in 1995. It was 1996 model and I waited 3 years for delivery. 186-yes one hundred eighty six- miles and the oil pump failed destroying the engine.
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  • rmill
    OK, so I've had FOUR GM auto trannys give out on me, a Honda Auto tranny poop out, a Honda 2.4 motor burn a valve, a GM Fuel pump go out, a Ford starter go out... a Dodge fuel injection go out and My Evo HD motor has 80,000 on it and I had the base gaskets weeping on it and a head gasket blow at 65,000. Guess I better stop driving... All things are relative to all things that are relative.
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  • alias
    quote:I bought a new Harley Springer Softail in 1995. It was 1996 model and I waited 3 years for delivery. 186-yes one hundred eighty six- miles and the oil pump failed destroying the engine.


    Let me get this straight. You paid for a 1996 Springer in 1995. Then took delivery in 1998. Then the oil pump (probably sheared a key) quit and wiped out the engine on a "new" 2 year old bike. So the warranty wouldn't cover the damage because you waited 3 years (until 1998 according to your post) to take delivery of a model that other guys got the day they wrote the check? Or did the dealer put a fresh engine in it and keep the warranty going?

    I knew a couple guys that bought Springer Softtails in the mid '90s. And took delivery the day they paid. Other than the ubiquitous cam bearing issues that the 80" Evos had, the only problem I saw with them is that a shovelhead with an Andrews "AB" cam and an S&S Super E would run circles around them on the highway. You got a lemon the dealer should have made right without question.

    I don't mean to sound like a dick here, but I'm trying to understand your post. And I'm kind of curious, because the '73 shovelhead I referenced in my previous post had an oil pump develop significantly reduced oil pressure do to something going through the gear housing. It was hammering like it had an army of trolls inside it when I finally got it home, but I knew I'd be going into it anyway, so I kept going. That cost me about $1000 in parts but I don't blame the company. And a new '95 80" Evo motor in the mid '90s was right at $2500 in black, (a couple hundred more in chrome) in the crate. I almost bought one for the '73 frame, but thought better of it.
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  • grumpygy
    Closer to 5 grand now.
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  • mjrfd99
    quote---I saw with them is that a shovelhead with an Andrews "AB" cam and an S&S Super E would run circles around them on the highway."

    Yep. 320K and counting.
    When something broke, and it did over 39 yrs, I used better parts [S+S, Andrews, PM] to repair it.
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    It will go to Ed.
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  • KX500
    Harley Davidson is one of the best companies in the world at getting money out of your wallet! Most all of these posts that tell me how great Harley's are also tell me how much money gets spent on them - 'I upgraded this, replaced that' cha-ching cha-ching goes the cash register! And to ride a stock Harley.....without spending more money on it....Gasp!! Is that even legal?

    Now if owning, riding & spending money on a Harley is your thing - great, more power to you!

    None for me, thanks. I just don't want $20,000 - $40,000 sitting in the garage and being ridden maybe a dozen times a year.

    And the Harley or nothing attitude?

    "Some guys can ride Harleys, some guys need to stay on their Hondas and BMWs because that's where they belong. A lot of the same people who talk crap about Harley Davidson either could never afford one (and so pay half or less what a Harley costs and think they got a deal) or are the same guys who pay a shop to change an alternator or serpentine belt on their daily driver."

    Makes me laugh. Having a Harley is so exclusive. More like, Me too, Me too!

    Honestly, I don't care what you ride, why insult a guy for what he rides? Because he didn't validate you & make the same bike choice as you?
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  • alias
    quote:Harley Davidson is one of the best companies in the world at getting money out of your wallet! None for me, thanks. I just don't want $20,000 - $40,000 sitting in the garage and being ridden maybe a dozen times a year. Makes me laugh. Because he didn't validate you & make the same bike choice as you

    Oops. looks like I struck a nerve and hurt somebodies delicate feelings. Maybe if someone got out and rode a little more?
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  • KX500
    ?Oops. looks like I struck a nerve and hurt somebodies delicate feelings.? Yes, makes perfect sense ? you like Harleys and I?m not a huge fan, so naturally that would upset me.

    Now if I owned a competing motorcycle company, I would be upset. What other brand name is tattooed on some many people? Not to mention Harley?s ability to convince so many to spend so much. If for nothing else, Harley is an amazing company for these things.

    I like motorcycles. Seems to me that all brands make good stuff. No brand sponsors me so I don?t feel any particular loyalty to any of them. Ok I am kinda partial to Hondas and how could you not like a company that made Guns & Bikes (Husqvarna)?

    And if I died tomorrow, I?d have no regrets about how much I?ve ridden a street bike. For about 15 years, I rode to work about every day it wasn?t raining or snowing and was above 20 degrees. I know, a real rider would have not minded getting to work wet (did that anyway several times when there was no rain forecast) and he would have figured out a way to keep the face shield in his helmet from frosting over when it was less than about 20 degrees. And yes, the V-Star did need clutch plates at about 30,000 miles, which cost about $20 and a half hour of my time.

    Now I do regret not riding dirt bikes more. I?m working on that.
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  • JasonV
    I like all brands and have had most of them. The most money I have spent on mods and accessories is for my Honda Goldwing.

    My HD just keeps chugging along and will last for infinity since it is rebuildable metal and not plastic.
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