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  • jimdeere
    Did we win?
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  • Don McManus
    Did we win?

    Who knows....

    We slaughtered iswas and supported islamic militants in a rebellion against an evil yet largely secular government.

    We supported islamic militants who used the civilian population as human shields in their fight against Assad.

    It has been stated that Trump is going against the advise of our allies and the bulk of his advisors. These allies and advisors have links to the goat-screw that is Afghanistan and the idiocy of the Iraq invasion of 2003.

    Perhaps a different path, a path that takes America's young warriors out of harm's way, is worth considering.

    He gave them 6 months to prepare. It has been 8 months, and we are hearing how arbitrary the decision is. Perhaps when the CIC speaks next time they will consider the possibility that he means what he is saying.

    IMO, we backed the wrong horse in Syria. Assad is, by all reasonable accounts, an evil person. He was never as evil, however, as the ideology of fundamentalist islam as practiced by iswas and the 'democratic' Syrian forces we backed.

    Time will tell of course, but for the most part the smaller our footprint is in the Middle East, the better.
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  • select-fire
    I suspect another terrorist bombing somewhere soon.
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  • droptop
    quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
    Did we win?
    Depends on how you look at the war military police action.

    MSM pretty much all say TRUMP screwed up. Trump stays and it's his fault. No win situation for Trump, taxpayers yes.

    Maybe it's better to have a new U.S. foreign doctrine, drones first, nuke'm second.[:D]
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  • droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Stabs the Kurds in the back.

    Again.

    Who else benefits ?

    Turks and Russians, Syrians and Iranians.

    And ISIS.

    All that winning.
    See how this works?
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  • jimdeere
    I haven?t heard ?Mission accomplished?yet.
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  • TooBig
    It gives me nightmares thinking if Hillary had won where we would be over there.
    Remember Iraq the democraps were all over TV saying they had WMD's and we needed to destroy them. Then they lost the election and they were all against the war.
    The democraps were all for the wall and illegals controlled until they lost the election and now it seems the only ones that vote for a democrap are illegals or Welfare Queens


    Trump can't win with the idiots on the left
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  • Navybat
    I agree, Trump can't win.

    But I agree with him, AMERICA FIRST.

    Stay out of the Middle East. And Africa. Asia too, for that matter.

    And minimal impact on South America.

    Antarctica only for research purposes.

    Europe? I guess we can stay there, for the trading partnerships only. I don't want any of their people.
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  • warfire
    We should still support the Kurds whom were our allies in the fight against ISIS in Syria. They are moderates who let the women be equals and fight along side them. If we leave then Asad's forces backed by their Russian and Iranian allies will push them out of Syria. The reason we have a military presence in the world is so that we don't get attacked here in the mainland. After WWI much of the country was isolationist and wanted to the U.S. to stay out of european wars. Unfortunately this was not to be as the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor.
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  • hoosier
    We should still support the Kurds whom were our allies in the fight against ISIS in Syria.

    Leave all the Arms, support goods, and transports we have there, to the Kurds.
    Too costly to move and re-stage In Europe or return to the US.
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  • Navybat
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat

    Europe? I guess we can stay there, for the trading partnerships only. I don't want any of their people.


    Yea, considering America was created and built by "their people" coming here. Unless of course, you're Native American? [;)]

    Same argument goes for Africa and Asia. Remember African slaves? Remember Chinese laborers? I don't want any of them.

    And I hate to say it, but I don't think America was "created and built" by "Native Americans".
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  • mrmike08075
    The only path to victory in the middle east is bomb them back to the stone age or use nukes to glass whole swathes of the region

    It's unfortunate because the Kurds and the Kuwaitis and several other groups would make decent stewards and neighbors if the were capable of gaining control and keeping it

    Syria and Afghanistan and Iraq will all fail

    But what truly scares me is the political and religious leadership in Turkey wants the return on the ottoman empire or their own spin on a caliphate

    And I weep for any American blood spilled in the sandbox or the rock pile - but couldn't we send over several divisions - a whole army group and put a massive hurt on Isis

    Mike
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  • mogley98
    Bring em all home close the boarders toss all the libs out and focus on MAGA :)
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  • spasmcreek
    the commies kicked france out of viet nam....the afgans kicked russia out..,,etc, etc..so why do we sacrifice ??????? what do you SAY at the >>>WALL<<< to 58000 names whose souls we left behind for now commie country that any AMERICAN that could do business with today is busting butt to get to ??????? this is insane
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  • shilowar
    I wonder if that is why Mattis is leaving???
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  • ruger41
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I wonder if that is why Mattis is leaving???


    Sad to see him go. He was my favorite person who was in the administration.
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  • grumpygy
    Need to get them out of the rest of those S H i t Holes.
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  • kimi
    I echo Don McManus here. Let me add that this move of his comes at a time we need to fund the wall or shut down the government or parts thereof.

    Like Michele Malkin mentioned the other day, 5 billion dollars is nothing. Fund it and build it. The progressives in the GOP led by the likes of Lindsey Graham's coalition is dead set against Trump's latest move. Trump is playing his Syrian card to tighten the screws on Graham's followers, too, as I see it. A bargaining chip to get the wall funded. Representatives that go against funding the wall here will be identified in a manner strong enough to get rid of some of the swamp dwellers the next time they come up for re-election.
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  • Navybat
    If it was Obama, they'd agree to everything in a heartbeat.
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  • yoshmyster
    quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
    Did we win?


    I reckon Trump is fixing obama's mistake. Personally I hope Trump pulls out of the Mideast all together and let the UN deal with it. Let them earn their funds.
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  • Captplaid
    Trump made the right decision in North Korea. Seems to me this is more about pissing off the New World Order with their petrol dollar games. Once we get out, there is no going back. The American public will not allow it ever. Isis is dead funny how Obama told us we have to learn to live with it.
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  • mjrfd99
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    POTUS said he knows more about this stuff than the generals.

    You got what you wanted.

    Live with it, if you can.


    Donnie goads your ass 24/7 huh?
    [:D]
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  • 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    The only path to victory in the middle east is bomb them back to the stone age or use nukes to glass whole swathes of the region

    It's unfortunate because the Kurds and the Kuwaitis and several other groups would make decent stewards and neighbors if the were capable of gaining control and keeping it

    Syria and Afghanistan and Iraq will all fail

    But what truly scares me is the political and religious leadership in Turkey wants the return on the ottoman empire or their own spin on a caliphate

    And I weep for any American blood spilled in the sandbox or the rock pile - but couldn't we send over several divisions - a whole army group and put a massive hurt on Isis

    Mike




    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    Go in big, put a massive hurting on them, and get out. F' the rebuilding your Country Crap.


    You want to live in the Stone Ages?

    Here, let us help you out .


    Sending the very best of our Country (those willing to Volunteer, to Fight and Die for our Country.) deserve more than being sent to Third World Crapholes with limited "Rules of Engagement," and be walking targets all day every day. (For What??)



    We could learn a lot from the Israelis. If you want to F' with us, we will make you pay a Heavy price. (And) We will NOT be rebulding your Country when we leave.


    Just my Humble Opinion.
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  • Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    The only path to victory in the middle east is bomb them back to the stone age or use nukes to glass whole swathes of the region

    It's unfortunate because the Kurds and the Kuwaitis and several other groups would make decent stewards and neighbors if the were capable of gaining control and keeping it

    Syria and Afghanistan and Iraq will all fail

    But what truly scares me is the political and religious leadership in Turkey wants the return on the ottoman empire or their own spin on a caliphate

    And I weep for any American blood spilled in the sandbox or the rock pile - but couldn't we send over several divisions - a whole army group and put a massive hurt on Isis

    Mike




    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    Go in big, put a massive hurting on them, and get out. F' the rebuilding your Country Crap.


    You want to live in the Stone Ages?

    Here, let us help you out .


    Sending the very best of our Country (those willing to Volunteer, to Fight and Die for our Country.) deserve more than being sent to Third World Crapholes with limited "Rules of Engagement," and be walking targets all day every day. (For What??)



    We could learn a lot from the Israelis. If you want to F' with us, we will make you pay a Heavy price. (And) We will NOT be rebulding your Country when we leave.


    Just my Humble Opinion.

    +1000
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