Trump one and out?
Bush Sr. was the last one and done president. Not that Trump is anything like Bush Sr. (a little more like W). Can you imagine if twitter was around when W was in office? [:0][:D] Anyways just thinking out loud.
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I really hope not if the dems gain control which looks more likely every day
I fear..
we can kiss all our gun and most rights gone open the banks and funding to all the illegal "new voters "
it will be that way until a revolution takes them out of power
and that looks doubtful also too many couch commandos would not risk anything to fight and most of us will be too old to do much [V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
I'm beginning to doubt he'll even finish one term, due to legal matters or health problems. I really can't imagine Pence stepping into the role. Not sure how well that would go either. [V]
Now he has health problems and will be dead within a couple of years?0 -
The way things seem to be shaping up I am quite concerned that he'll not get re-elected. The Dems have demonstrated that they will do absolutely everything they can to take back the government. I keep hearing that the Mueller investigation is winding down, yet it keep plugging along with no supervision, going where ever they seem to deem necessary, far beyond "Russian collusion". The Feds have already demonstrated that they are politically motivated in wielding their powers of arrest and prosecution. I believe they (Never Trumper power players within DOJ) will find something to criminally charge Trump, just for political advantage. They don't care if they get a conviction, they only care about winning. 0 -
I have never, in my wildest imaginations EVER seen such disrespect for the office of the President of the United States of America![V] 0 -
I have never, in my wildest imaginations EVER seen such disrespect for the office of the President of the United States of America![V] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
I have never, in my wildest imaginations EVER seen such disrespect for the office of the President of the United States of America![V]
and if it was the other way, say hilldabeast had been elected and this disrespect was shown, it would be RACIST, or FEMALE DISCRIMINATION, I think that is why they will run a woman or even a black woman if possible so they can play the race card....[xx(][V][V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
I really hope not if the dems gain control which looks more likely every day
I fear..
we can kiss all our gun and most rights gone open the banks and funding to all the illegal "new voters "
it will be that way until a revolution takes them out of power
and that looks doubtful also too many couch commandos would not risk anything to fight and most of us will be too old to do much [V]
This ^^^^
Prepared accordingly.
Watch that old poop. We're cranky and in pain. Death brings relief and finally a good sleep[:D]0 -
Perhaps with Russian help we can win again 
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my only real concern is how to put keep my retirement money totally safe ...doubt if cash is even safe because if the politicos screw it all up they can always change the currency...at a big discount of course....plan on selling most of the firearms in 2019 and keeping just a spread of diff ones....plan on selling the lake place and getting out of the property tax there....got one small tract of land sold after the first of the year...got to old to do my plan for a hilltop sheltered or underground house...shoulda done it 20 years ago 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mogley98
Perhaps with Russian help we can win again
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Yea,...he's one and done. If they run the VP, as is customary, I don't think that will turn out well. Pence appears to be a good man in many ways, but I believe he had his personality surgically removed somewhere along the line.
Big changes coming in 2020.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
Yea,...he's one and done. If they run the VP, as is customary, I don't think that will turn out well. Pence appears to be a good man in many ways, but I believe he had his personality surgically removed somewhere along the line.
Big changes coming in 2020.
If true, there will be even bigger changes in 2021.
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So I guess some of y'alls been thinking of this as much.
I need Trump to seat as many SCOTUS as he can while in office. Since I know newsome will make a run within 10 years.0 -
My big problem is that I don't see either party having someone to run in the next election.
Both the Jackasses and the Eliphinos have lost their ability to lead and we're floundering in the muck.
And with the "entitled" and the "scared" voting blocks we are headed for problems.
But my biggest fear is that if the Mass Media doesn't find it's ethical foundation again we're in for a real rough time.[:(]0 -
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I have never, in my wildest imaginations EVER seen such disrespect for the office of the President of the United States of America!
Me either. And that from the man elected to the office! ;-)0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wild Turkey
My big problem is that I don't see either party having someone to run in the next election.
Both the Jackasses and the Eliphinos have lost their ability to lead and we're floundering in the muck.
And with the "entitled" and the "scared" voting blocks we are headed for problems.
But my biggest fear is that if the Mass Media doesn't find it's ethical foundation again we're in for a real rough time.[:(]
Nikki Haley is positioned to step up should Trump decide not to run.
Frankly, given what he has been subject to, it would not surprise me if he passed the torch before the end of this year.0 -
Dems made gains in Trump states last month. I fear voters want Communism more than hard work. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
?Of Folly? by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers From Prison, Ten Years On (1943)
"Folly is a more dangerous enemy to the good than evil. You can protest against evil, you can unmask it or prevent it by force. Evil always contains the seeds of its own destruction, for it always makes men uncomfortable, if nothing worse. There is no defense against folly. Neither protests nor force are of any avail against it, and it is never amenable to reason. If facts contradict personal prejudices, there is no need to believe them, and if they are undeniable, they can simply be pushed aside as exceptions. Thus the fool, as compared with the scoundrel, is invariably self-complacent. And he can easily become dangerous, for it does not take much to make him aggressive. Hence folly requires much more cautious handling than evil. We shall never again try to reason with the fool, for it is both useless and dangerous.
To deal adequately with folly it is essential to recognize it for what it is. This much is certain, it is a moral rather than an intellectual defect. There are men of great intellect who are fools, and men of low intellect who are anything but fools, a discovery we make to our surprise as a result of particular circumstances. The impression we derive is that folly is acquired rather than congenital; it is acquired in certain circumstances where men make fools of themselves or allow others to make fools of them. We observe further that folly is less common in the unsociable or the solitary than in individuals or groups who are inclined or condemned to sociability. From this it would appear that folly is a sociological problem rather than one of psychology. It is a special form of the operation of historical circumstances upon men, a psychological by-product of definite external factors. On closer inspection it would seem that any violent revolution, whether political or religious, produces an outburst of folly in a large part of mankind. Indeed, it would seem to be almost a law of psychology and sociology. The power of one needs the folly of the other. It is not that certain aptitudes of men, intellectual aptitudes for instance, become stunted or destroyed. Rather, the upsurge of power is so terrific that it deprives men of an independent judgement, and they give up trying?more or less unconsciously?to assess the new state of affairs for themselves. The fool can often be stubborn, but this must not mislead us into thinking he is independent. One feels somehow, especially in conversation with him, that it is impossible to talk to the man himself, to talk to him personally. Instead, one is confronted with a series of slogans watchwords, and the like, which have acquired power over him. He is under a curse, he is blinded, his very humanity is being prostituted and exploited. Once he has surrendered his will and become a mere tool, there are no lengths of evil to which the fool will not go, yet all the time he is unable to see that it is evil. Here lies the danger of a diabolical exploitation of humanity, which can do irreparable damage to the human character.
But it is just at this point that we realize that the fool cannot be saved by education. What he needs is redemption. There is nothing else for it. Until then it is no earthly good trying to convince him by rational argument. In this state of affairs we can well understand why it is no use trying to find out what ?the people? really think, and why this question is also so superfluous for the man who thinks and acts responsibly. As the Bible says, ?the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom?. In other words, the only cure for folly is spiritual redemption, for that alone can enable a man to live as a responsible person in the sight of God. But there is a grain of consolation in these reflections on human folly. There is no reason for us to think that the majority of men are fools under all circumstances. What matters in the long run is whether our rulers hope to gain more from the folly of men, or from their independence of judgement and their shrewdness of mind."
Nice, you showed us how utterly brilliant you are; now how about answering the OP question in your own words. Remember, character is destiny.0 -
I wonder how many Trump voodoo dolls he plays with daily.
Wanting Trumps failure is same as wanting USA failure IMO
CNN Jr is hilariously smarmy at times. At times[8)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wild Turkey
My big problem is that I don't see either party having someone to run in the next election.
Both the Jackasses and the Eliphinos have lost their ability to lead and we're floundering in the muck.
And with the "entitled" and the "scared" voting blocks we are headed for problems.
But my biggest fear is that if the Mass Media doesn't find it's ethical foundation again we're in for a real rough time.[:(]
Neither party had some one to run in 2016, so that will not be a big change.0 -
He will be indicted within 90 days...Campaign Laws Violations.
Finish out his one term, pardoned and gone.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by bpost
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
?Of Folly? by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers From Prison, Ten Years On (1943)
"Folly is a more dangerous enemy to the good than evil. You can protest against evil, you can unmask it or prevent it by force. Evil always contains the seeds of its own destruction, for it always makes men uncomfortable, if nothing worse. There is no defense against folly. Neither protests nor force are of any avail against it, and it is never amenable to reason. If facts contradict personal prejudices, there is no need to believe them, and if they are undeniable, they can simply be pushed aside as exceptions. Thus the fool, as compared with the scoundrel, is invariably self-complacent. And he can easily become dangerous, for it does not take much to make him aggressive. Hence folly requires much more cautious handling than evil. We shall never again try to reason with the fool, for it is both useless and dangerous.
To deal adequately with folly it is essential to recognize it for what it is. This much is certain, it is a moral rather than an intellectual defect. There are men of great intellect who are fools, and men of low intellect who are anything but fools, a discovery we make to our surprise as a result of particular circumstances. The impression we derive is that folly is acquired rather than congenital; it is acquired in certain circumstances where men make fools of themselves or allow others to make fools of them. We observe further that folly is less common in the unsociable or the solitary than in individuals or groups who are inclined or condemned to sociability. From this it would appear that folly is a sociological problem rather than one of psychology. It is a special form of the operation of historical circumstances upon men, a psychological by-product of definite external factors. On closer inspection it would seem that any violent revolution, whether political or religious, produces an outburst of folly in a large part of mankind. Indeed, it would seem to be almost a law of psychology and sociology. The power of one needs the folly of the other. It is not that certain aptitudes of men, intellectual aptitudes for instance, become stunted or destroyed. Rather, the upsurge of power is so terrific that it deprives men of an independent judgement, and they give up trying?more or less unconsciously?to assess the new state of affairs for themselves. The fool can often be stubborn, but this must not mislead us into thinking he is independent. One feels somehow, especially in conversation with him, that it is impossible to talk to the man himself, to talk to him personally. Instead, one is confronted with a series of slogans watchwords, and the like, which have acquired power over him. He is under a curse, he is blinded, his very humanity is being prostituted and exploited. Once he has surrendered his will and become a mere tool, there are no lengths of evil to which the fool will not go, yet all the time he is unable to see that it is evil. Here lies the danger of a diabolical exploitation of humanity, which can do irreparable damage to the human character.
But it is just at this point that we realize that the fool cannot be saved by education. What he needs is redemption. There is nothing else for it. Until then it is no earthly good trying to convince him by rational argument. In this state of affairs we can well understand why it is no use trying to find out what ?the people? really think, and why this question is also so superfluous for the man who thinks and acts responsibly. As the Bible says, ?the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom?. In other words, the only cure for folly is spiritual redemption, for that alone can enable a man to live as a responsible person in the sight of God. But there is a grain of consolation in these reflections on human folly. There is no reason for us to think that the majority of men are fools under all circumstances. What matters in the long run is whether our rulers hope to gain more from the folly of men, or from their independence of judgement and their shrewdness of mind."
Nice, you showed us how utterly brilliant you are; now how about answering the OP question in your own words. Remember, character is destiny.
That is my answer.
Please try to pay attention.
Please remember, Character is destiny. Have you looked in the mirror lately and wonder why people that have had dealings with you here on this forum consider yourself a troll?
You answer, a non-answer as usual, displays a character that makes one wonder...0 -
The 2020 Presidential election may find that neither Florida nor Ohio are swing states, nor that either is important to the outcome.
Democratic Party long term fealty to the Clintons robbed a sitting President of the opportunity to groom a successor. This circumstance and a rigging of the Democratic Party primary contest caused them to put up a most undesirable candidate in 2016. They got what they deserved with such shenanigans.
Whether candidate Trump would have lost to VP Biden or Senator Sanders is anybody's guess. I doubt he would have taken Pennsylvania against Biden.
The Walker defeat in WI, loss of governor's seats in other mid-west states, AZ senator's race, the closeness of the races in GA & TX - none of this bodes well for re-election in 2020. Then again, never underestimate the Democratic Party's ability to step on their collective tail. Senator Warren in 2020? [:o)]
Still, one never knows what will happen in the next few months. I view this as season 2, episode 11.0
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