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How the shutdown is reaching a breaking point

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  • Ricci Wright
    I hate to say it and I hope I?m wrong but I expect President Trump to cave in the end.
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  • 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I hate to say it and I hope I?m wrong but I expect President Trump to cave in the end.



    I hope he hangs tough.

    Screw Em'.


    The Wall, needs to happen. Undocumented, unregulated Immigration coupled with copious amounts of Free Sheeit, does not bode well for us Taxpayers.


    You know, those of us willing to Work for a living.



    Democraps wanting them in (in order to increase their Voting Block,) need to host them at their freakin' House.

    You know Nancy, Chuck, O'Bummer, Lieawatha, etc. etc.

    I REALLY do not see that happening.
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  • Cornflk1
    Still hasn't affected me, all those Fed workers need to realsise this is how everyday business is run.

    Just read that some of the National parks in California are now overrun by feces/trash/ whatever, due to low Park Service employees as baby sitters[:(!]


    Maybe all those park visitors need to just go to San Francisco[?] Be right at home.
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  • ruger41
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I hate to say it and I hope I?m wrong but I expect President Trump to cave in the end.


    Just read a news report that he is requesting a bipartisan meeting one day before the Dems take the House. I don?t believe the Democrats will cave on the wall.
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  • spasmcreek
    how about cancelling the WALL with the cast in stone ORDER...NO IMMIGRATION IN ANY FORM...illegal crossings will get you thrown back south or in hard labor camps for a year then deported NO ADULTS NO KIDS NOBODY..and illegals injuring AMERICAN CITIZENS get life NO PAROLE killing AMERICAN CITIZENS get any immediate execution....a PAPER WALL....a REAL ONE
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  • remingtonoaks
    The only thing that ever gets shut down is unnecessary departments. If they're unnecessary, my question is why do we have them?!

    Shut them down and leave them shut down!!!
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  • Junkballer
    I can appreciate that many are worried about making their car payments and other living expenses but many of us are worried about our national security.....I say US security should win out everytime [;)]
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  • Ricci Wright
    When are the fed employees due their next paycheck?? I think they are paid every too weeks so they probably haven?t missed a payday yet.
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    When are the fed employees due their next paycheck?? I think they are paid every too weeks so they probably haven?t missed a payday yet.


    Normally the 1st and the 15th.
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  • US Military Guy
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I hate to say it and I hope I?m wrong but I expect President Trump to cave in the end.


    If he does, stick a fork in him. He is done to the folks that elected him!

    Some of them finished with him on the bump stock thing.

    [:(!]
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  • Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by US Military Guy
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I hate to say it and I hope I?m wrong but I expect President Trump to cave in the end.


    If he does, stick a fork in him. He is done to the folks that elected him!

    Some of them finished with him on the bump stock thing.

    [:(!]

    Yep,...he's headed down the crapper fast if he caves on the wall promise, and I'm afraid he's going to.
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  • brier-49
    You all want him to stand tough on this & his other promises,, send emails to the White voicing your support. Don't sit your butt on here whinning about him, get up off you lazy butts & show him you support him. I don't think he's a member here!!
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    From a political standpoint, the real question is WHO WILL THE PUBLIC BLAME THE MOST FOR THE SHUT DOWN?

    The vast majority of the public know illegal immigration is a serious problem and border security is necessary. The vast majority also knows the demonrats are total obstructionists to ANYTHING President Trump favors. Also, most demonrats were in favor of border security BEFORE Trump was for it.

    I believe the demonrats will pay a huge price for acting like a 2 year old brat.

    [^]


    Sorry but the Democrats are great at shifting the blame It will be all Trumps fault in the end.
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  • guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    When are the fed employees due their next paycheck?? I think they are paid every too weeks so they probably haven?t missed a payday yet.


    Normally the 1st and the 15th.


    No, Every two weeks.

    Military is 1/15.
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    When are the fed employees due their next paycheck?? I think they are paid every too weeks so they probably haven?t missed a payday yet.


    Normally the 1st and the 15th.


    No, Every two weeks.

    Military is 1/15.




    Isn't that what I said.
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  • droptop
    Will the zoo animals starve? On second thought what's the U.S. government doing with a zoo?

    Time to start a GO FUND me to feed the animals. Think a million will be enough to keep the animal "fat and happy"

    WOWZER:, surely food stamps won't be late !!!!!!
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  • mogley98
    Need to NOT pay back pay or any other costs associated with shut down too!
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  • wpage
    The employees never miss anything. Each time this happens they get retro pay for the period. Certainly they will get it again as soon as this political theater is settled.
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  • droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
    I can appreciate that many are worried about making their car payments and other living expenses but many of us are worried about our national security.....I say US security should win out everytime [;)]
    Worried about making a payment when you will NOT lose a single dime in pay? No money to cover 60 days of expenses WHEN YOU WORK full time.
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  • WearyTraveler
    They're going to miraculously come to a last minute "something" and the money will be there to reopen.

    There won't be all the wall money, just enough for Trump to say he didn't cave, and little enough for the Dems to beat their chests and say they didn't cave.

    Everybody keeps saying that the Dems are bad and are going to be pushed out. But, they keep winning seats. We conservatives talk a better game than we walk...
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    quote:Originally posted by brier-49
    You all want him to stand tough on this & his other promises,, send emails to the White voicing your support. Don't sit your butt on here whinning about him, get up off you lazy butts & show him you support him. I don't think he's a member here!!
    We should TWEET something!
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  • Frogdog
    Dang! Looks like I?m a ?non-essential.? Bummer - guess the past couple of decades were a waste.

    For the outspoken few - might ask yourself just how essential are YOU to this country? Just saying....[;)]
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  • mjrfd99
    Just goes to show how much government is BS. Jobs for connected slobs, the friends and family of politicraps, has killed many a demonrat craphole. Repuke corruption is almost as bad.
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  • Navybat
    I support the President. Go Donald!
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  • nmyers
    No need for green here.

    Essential employees have to work, even though they don't know when they will be paid, & non-essential employees aren't allowed to work. The money for salaries has been budgeted. The only reason for the shutdown is because the Draft Dodger wants to inflict pain on federal employees AND the general public, in hopes of getting what he wants from Pelosi.

    Many low salary feds WILL lose money, when they have to pay penalty & interest on car & house payments that aren't paid timely. And, most federal contract employees who get laid off will never be paid; tough luck for them.

    And, for the record, all spending bills must originate in the House. The framers of the Constitution called it "checks & balances". Sometimes you just can't get what you want.

    Neal
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  • mogley98
    Best thing that could ever happen is to lose about a half million or more Federal employees. We need the private sector making money and being productive. For every one Fed employee who actually works ten don't.
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  • chiefr
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    Interesting how some have no issue in blaming Trump when he is willing to negotiate with the Dems who REFUSE to negotiate and have said so at a joint meeting yesterday and, most likely, will do so again at the meeting scheduled for tomorrow after lip chewing pelosi get her was as speaker of the house.

    He already came down from the initial $25 Billion to $5 Billion.

    WHY don't the Dems want to secure our border and protect the citizens of the USA? Perhaps the same reason they want to disarm all citizens. It's all about control, they are the 'elite' and the rest of us are just peons giving them $$ to live an opulant lifestyle.

    [:(]



    Yep, and they have a complicit media to help them.



    As long as I can remember the DEMOCRAT liars in the media, every government shutdown or threat of a shutdown is blamed on GOP. Usually the POTUS if he is GOP and GOP congress in the case of Obama, Clinton, and Carter.

    Trump nails it every time he says the media is the enemy of the people.
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  • asop
    Didn't Obama increased the Fed. employment roll by over 30%? Maybe it's time to get back to reality here and give the tax payers a well earned brake for a change.
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  • grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    From a political standpoint, the real question is WHO WILL THE PUBLIC BLAME THE MOST FOR THE SHUT DOWN?

    The vast majority of the public know illegal immigration is a serious problem and border security is necessary. The vast majority also knows the demonrats are total obstructionists to ANYTHING President Trump favors. Also, most demonrats were in favor of border security BEFORE Trump was for it.

    I believe the demonrats will pay a huge price for acting like a 2 year old brat.

    [^]


    Sorry but the Democrats are great at shifting the blame It will be all Trumps fault in the end.



    The blame game can shift quickly. Just let a few more illegals get caught raping, robbing and killing good looking women and men with wives and little children.

    [;)]


    Has that not already been Happening.
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