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Hog hunting/eradication

joshmb1982
Looking at hog hunting as being more pest control more then hunting. Where killing the animal is objective #1.

Seeing these people waiting for a good shot to put the animal down DRT.

If you see these pigs as on the same level as mice, rats and other critters, or worse as they do so much damage. Why not settle for a mediocre shot? Try to get 2 or more with a shot.

I'm thinking along the lines of use a 300WM loaded with as heavy of a fmj as you could find and wait for them to line up.

At under 100 yds even if you shot them in the belly they'd be dragging their intestines across the ground no? It would pass through a good few that way. Maybe not DRT but dead none the less.

I'm not going to go skinning rats alive or ripping them apart to kill them. But if one runs in front of me I'm going to try to stomp on it. If I miss it's head and squish it's guts out it's butt I'm still not going to feel bad.
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  • wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.
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  • gjshaw
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.


    +1

    I?m going hog hunting on Friday and I will not take a shot unless i think it will put the hog down ethicality.
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  • Mobuck
    I guess you guys haven't watched the utoob heli-hunters???
    Much closer to stomping mice than hunting.
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  • dreher
    I'm of two minds on this. I have always tried to put an animal down as humanely as possible.

    On the other side, if you have ever watched a hog kill a new born fawn by simply eating it, starting by eating the guts first, causing what has to be horrible pain to the fawn, I'm guessing I wont worry to much if my shot isn't as clean as it could have been.


    Do not get me wrong, I will still try for a clean kill on a hog but if the hog is hit and runs off to die an hour later, a day later, I wont lose any sleep over it. Hogs are nasty bassturds!!
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  • joshmb1982
    I agree in ethical hunting. On the occasion while archery hunting I've gut shot a deer I do feel bad for it and need to practice more. I've never taken joy in causing anything else pain. Well I can't say that I have been in a few fights in my youth. And some pranks on friends are at least mildly painful.

    What I'm saying is these pig hunts are more ment for eradication then hunting. If I had a big ranch and had pigs destroying my lively hood I would want the SOBs dead as soon as possible. And I would really care how.

    People use rat poison all the time. The rats bleed out. I've heard members here say to mix concrete with sugar and see if the rats would eat that. So bind up the rats intestines and let them go septic and die. People make improvised rat/mouse traps with a bucket of water where they fall in and drown. How is letting pigs line up worse then this?

    Without being a sadist, there's no possible way you could kill an animal as cruelly as another animal. Particularly as these pigs that eat other critters alive. Not trying to make it fair or get revenge for Bambi. Just a different thought to ponder.
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  • SCOUT5
    If you look at it like a war on the hogs for the purpose of irradiation, then putting them down any way you can is the same as putting down any enemy. It's best if you can kill the enemy dead on the spot. But if all you can due is put lead into him and have him crawl off and die else where that's much better than having him in fighting condition. In the case of the hog that would be breeding/eating condition.

    So, if you are trying to protect your lively hood and you can put lead into a hog I don't see an issue with doing so. If you are hunting for sport and one shot kills are your goal then hunt them that way.

    You shouldn't needlessly cause pain and suffering to an animal and it's best to try to kill them quickly. In the case of a farmer trying to thin out feral hogs he has a need and that need changes the tactics. The key word is needlessly. In the case of the farmer he has a need for that hog to be out of commission, so if the opportunity is there to take the hog out of commission he should take it.
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  • roswellnative
    Hogs are an invasive and destructive species i would not want them on my land

    That said, I would take the shot and see what happens
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.
    Yep, same here.
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  • mag00
    War is ugly. If you go into war trying not the "hurt feelings" you will lose.

    Ethics and morals are subjective.

    The mouse digs into your food supply. The cat eats the mouse, the coyote eats the cat the farmer shoots the coyote, the snowflake mob protest and mob his residence. Farmer shoot the snowflakes, bugs eat the snowflakes, birds eat the bugs...

    So just give your hogs a safe free place to live and shutup.
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  • He Dog
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.



    Wise man, he knew and you know the difference between ethical hunting and sadism. Looks like Josh does not.
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  • chollagardens
    Most agree, be humane to game animals, farm animals and pets.

    Difference of opinion about varmints.
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  • joshmb1982
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.



    Wise man, he knew and you know the difference between ethical hunting and sadism. Looks like Josh does not.


    I would disagree. I'm not calling killing feral hogs ethical hunting any more then I would setting rat traps. Seems to me the purpose of both is the same. Kill as many/all of the intended animal ASAP. You use a gun or a rat traps your still killing your jnteded vermine.

    Guess you can't see the point of view I'm attempting to make. Not looking to torture the feral hogs,. Not trying to draw out their death as slowly and painfully as possible. Just thinking if you are determined to kill as many pigs as you can and "THIS IS WAR." If their destroying your crops and causing you tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages.

    I'd be thinking most here would get a belt fed rifle if they could and just mow down as many as possible. Could always walk around with a pistol after to finish off any that are still squealing.
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  • SCOUT5
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    My Dad always taught me to not let anything suffer.



    Wise man, he knew and you know the difference between ethical hunting and sadism. Looks like Josh does not.


    IMO that is not a fair or accurate interpretation of his position.
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  • pawnee66
    If you could see what a herd of feral hogs can do to YOUR newly planted corn/ wheat crop you will definitely feel different about them!!
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  • jar
    there are 4 of us dads that take our kids hog hunting somewhere every winter. we have been all over ark, la, and texas . last year we got to see the helihunters flying up and down the river and across the feilds , got hear that gun going rat at tat most of the weekend. but if you hunt on a ranch or with outfitters most of the time , if you draw blood that is considered a kill even if you cant find it. so a good clean shot is necessary for a number of different reasons. I have hunted all my life , and the ones that taught me to hunt and handle a gun made it very clear that there is a great difference between a hunter and a killer. that being said it all depends on each individual , and how they look at themselves and their prey.but that is jmho .
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  • Mobuck
    shootin hogs ain't huntin, it's killin
    it is what it is, take it or look the other way
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  • Sig220_Ruger77
    I'm going hog hunting down in Texas this February. I'm taking either my .22-250 or .277 Wolverine(both scoped with 3-9's) for the early stand portion of the hunt. For the night/stalk portion I'm taking my 20 gauge and #1 Buck.

    Jon
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