Ha ha ha! Got home to find a gun apart with a note
I've been gone all day and just walked in to find my curious son has left a gun taken apart on the photo stand in the gun room. He took one of my auction tags and wrote "sorry" on it and tied it to the gun.
We've all taken something apart and wished we hadn't. I'm betting this might be worth watching on the security video.
We've all taken something apart and wished we hadn't. I'm betting this might be worth watching on the security video.
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I took a NAA Mini revolver apart once....never again.
Same thing with a Winchester 94 and a Winchester 97.......no mass!
John was a great gun designer but he was into crazy complicated crap. A BAR will make you want to kill yourself.0 -
I was standing in the front of the gun store one day....my dad was working on a Nylon 66 at the back. I felt this little tap where something hit the side of my head and heard him say "DAMN IT". I told the customer I was helping to help me find whatever just hit me because it came from the gun causing all the language. We had to be 20 feet or more away. 0 -
I have never took something apart that I couldn't go back together. Although I have been known to lose a spring or nut or two (especially the springs) that had to be replaced before I put it back together![:0] 0 -
Was putting a new Trigger in my Wart Hog. Had a spring pop out I had no Idea where it came from. Put all the parts and that spring in a Plastic bag and headed to my Gunsmith. He cleaned it all up and put it back together.
$35.00 Dollars later I had my pistol. Think it was well worth the money.0 -
The Nylon 66 can be a real pain until you have done a couple.
One of the problems is people like to get in a hurry to take something apart, but then that has a tendency to mess with the memory.
I've taken a lot of different guns apart and have always taken the necessary time, particularly if it is the first one of its kind I have done. Sometimes I took notes or drew sketches during disassembly. Now days a digital camera can come in handy. One should also know how the parts relate to each other and how they function together. (there are also assembly/disassembly manuals that are cheap)
It's a learning process. You don't learn it all overnight. That's why in early times there was a thing called apprentice . Now days too many folks think that if they have a screwdriver and a hammer they can be a gunsmith.0 -
For me it was taking apart the toggle lock on a Walther semiautomatic shotgun - so many tiny parts...
And I bought my dad a pink Tupperware container filled with gun parts - a small semiautomatic pistol that had been fully broken down
The lore at the gunshop was that nobody had ever been able to put the gun back together / that it might be incomplete or might have parts from other pistols mixed in
If you could get it back together and function correctly / fire you could buy it for $40.00
Turns out to have been a Bayard 1908 and it was a real chore getting it back together and working - but my Dad did so and took it home
And if you work in the gunshop world how many ruger .22 semiautomatic pistols have you seen that the owners could not reassemble
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Winchester 190 comes to mind ............... that f'n spring 0 -
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I can remember years ago, sitting on Grandpa's front porch, tearing down a brand new Norinco SKS, to help clean all the cosmoline off. I think I was around 13-14 at the time.
Anyway, I get the bolt and carrier out just fine, get the stock off, and the last bit to go was the handguard and gas cylinder. No problem, right? Cylinder came right off.
Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I push this lever just a little bit further ahead? ZING! The piston extension and return spring fly across the porch, almost to the neighbor's yard, with the spring landing somewhere in a lilac bush that was in full bloom. Never found it again. We found a couple spares at a local shop shortly thereafter.
In the years since then, the old house was torn down, and that spot is now a parking lot. Far as I know, that spring is still there.[:I]0 -
Another vote for the Nylon 66 as having done more to expand the vocabulary of gun owners. I actually got an owner's manual to see the instructions from Remington on disassembly.
Turned to that section, and read what it says- "Don't do it." Really.
But the trigger mechanism for a Remington 550 should at least get a Dishonorable Mention.
Over time I have learned that there are some things that can be cleaned fine still assembled in a tank full of solvent.
For the ultimate, had 2 of my PFCs that were cleaning up a 4 Deuce mortar. For some reason, they decided to unscrew the cap on the standard (the upright leg that holds the barrel up). There are two compressed springs in there that soak up the shock of firing. They took it to the motor pool, clamped it in a vise, and unscrewed the cap with a pipe wrench. Thank God it was vertical. The 4,000 lb springs inside drove the released steel cap thru the roof of the motor pool. No injuries, but 2 really shook up young soldiers.[:p]0 -
quote:I took a NAA Mini revolver apart once....never again.
+1 on that Sam, even if I was a watchmaker and a trained NAA service tech, never again!
Right behind that would be the Colt Lightning Pump .22 Small Frame. There is absolutely nothing anywhere that will give you a clue how it comes apart, or goes back together. Plenty on the Medium and Large Frames, but the Small Frame is all different. To date, the only thing you'll find on it, is the pictorial "how to" I did. Half the reason I did it, was just in case I ever had to do another.[:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by likemhot
Winchester 190 comes to mind ............... that f'n spring
I hear ya. Took mine apart for a thorough cleaning. Took awhile to figure out how to get that spring back in. Finally did it by using a hard clear plastic tube (from what I can't remember) cut the tube to length, got the spring compressed in the tube and got it in place. Then I used pliers to crack the tube, breaking it up, and removed the pieces.
I'll never take that spring out again.0 -
I keep a tablet handy and photograph ever step! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by He Dog
I keep a tablet handy and photograph ever step!
+4 on this, He Dog.
Wish I had done it during the disassembly of the Ruger MKII/45.
Was successful on the second attempt at reassembly.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by He Dog
I keep a tablet handy and photograph ever step!
+4 on this, He Dog.
Wish I had done it during the disassembly of the Ruger MKII/45.
Was successful on the second attempt at reassembly.
I'm glad I'm not the only one..... Never had any issues with any gun before, butttt.... Exact same gun, only with 4 tries....0 -
Ruger Mk 1 through Mk III pistols are the worst! The only way I can get my old Standard model back together is if I lay down and turn the gun all sorts of ways til the stirrup goes into that plunger housing. I?m glad they redesigned it to break open like an AR15. 0 -
I've had folks bring me more "bags of gun" than I care to remember. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
For the ultimate, had 2 of my PFCs that were cleaning up a 4 Deuce mortar. For some reason, they decided to unscrew the cap on the standard (the upright leg that holds the barrel up). There are two compressed springs in there that soak up the shock of firing. They took it to the motor pool, clamped it in a vise, and unscrewed the cap with a pipe wrench. Thank God it was vertical. The 4,000 lb springs inside drove the released steel cap thru the roof of the motor pool. No injuries, but 2 really shook up young soldiers.[:p]
Had a real dork of a reclass in my shop at Ft. Hood who did the same, except he used a spanner wrench with it laying on the floor. Broke damn near every bone in his hand and both bones in his lower leg.0 -
M2 will put a real hurt on you if you do not pay attention. 0 -
Seven or Eight Years old, parents gone, I found Old Man's Service Revolver, some flavor of .38.
Took it apart. Couldn't get it back together! Durn Hammer had an interference with some other part of the mechanism!
So, I took the Hammer down to the basement, where I used a Bench Grinder to remove enough so I could get it back in. Closed the side plate, and put it back in His drawer....[:0]0 -
One of the worst I have done was a Stevens Visible Loader .22 pump. Worked on it in my spare time and it took about 8 or 10 hours over a period of 6 months. Came to me in a box of parts so I did not have the pleasure of disassembling it. Plus, some of the pieces were bent or sprung. At least they were all there.
To this day I get a sick feeling in my stomach and wobbly knees when I see one somewhere.0 -
nylon 66 stevens visible loader....tough nuts...got both....had a 66 apart many years ago ...smart enuff to leave the SVL alone ...it was grandads 0 -
Isn?t the Mauser C96 the jigsaw puzzle from Hell?[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
quote:Originally posted by likemhot
Winchester 190 comes to mind ............... that f'n spring
I hear ya. Took mine apart for a thorough cleaning. Took awhile to figure out how to get that spring back in. Finally did it by using a hard clear plastic tube (from what I can't remember) cut the tube to length, got the spring compressed in the tube and got it in place. Then I used pliers to crack the tube, breaking it up, and removed the pieces.
I'll never take that spring out again.
My father bought a display model 190 from a K-Mart for $40 circa 1975. No idea how many rounds he may have fired over the years. From the condition I'm guessing he never cleaned it. Disassembly seemed like the best option. The parts are now in a coffee can zip tied to the gun.
I've seen a youtube video on reassembly. I tried it once, spring now has a bend in it.0 -
I knew a guy from work who was a self taught locksmith. Someone brought him a combination lock from an old safe. In pieces. Took him several days, but he got it assembled and working.
When someone commented on how skillful he was he just replied, ?Not so much as the guy who assembled the very first one, the very first time.?0 -
Winchester 190? I've worked on exactly one, and it was brought to me with all the internals in a sack. My friend had taken it apart and could not put it back together.
Fortunately, I had not read all the previous posts in this thread yet, so I had no idea how difficult it is to re-assemble a Winchester 190. I cleaned it, lubed it, and put it back together in just a few minutes.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Winchester 190? I've worked on exactly one, and it was brought to me with all the internals in a sack. My friend had taken it apart and could not put it back together.
Fortunately, I had not read all the previous posts in this thread yet, so I had no idea how difficult it is to re-assemble a Winchester 190. I cleaned it, lubed it, and put it back together in just a few minutes.
I really thought that was what I was gonna do, too. The directions I read didn't say a darn thing about the spring being difficult.0 -
I reckon I was already accustomed to a difficult spring, having taken down and re-assembled my old Marlin 99C a few times. 0 -
Nylon 76 comes to mind. No longer have the rifle but still have, somewhere, my notes, written in sweat and blood, that explain exactly how to get those g.d. gears properly positioned.[:D] 0
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