About LED lights.
My wife's car is the first vehicle we have owned with LED lights, blue light took some get used to but they do illuminate well.
But something we have noticed and I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar instances.
We return from the rodeos in Jackson Hole three times a week in the summer and after 23:00 hrs, we know where we repeatedly see deer along the road in the same multiple places across Teton pass, down Trail creek and again down Piney creek after we cross Piney pass.
When these deer along the borrow ditch get hit with these lights, they generally moved away from them like the light irritates or frightens them. They don't move far but they do definitely move away.
Have any of you gents noticed this happening? These are all Mule deer.
This has happened repeatedly enough that the wife and I both have discussed it and watch for the deers reactions.
Mule
But something we have noticed and I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar instances.
We return from the rodeos in Jackson Hole three times a week in the summer and after 23:00 hrs, we know where we repeatedly see deer along the road in the same multiple places across Teton pass, down Trail creek and again down Piney creek after we cross Piney pass.
When these deer along the borrow ditch get hit with these lights, they generally moved away from them like the light irritates or frightens them. They don't move far but they do definitely move away.
Have any of you gents noticed this happening? These are all Mule deer.
This has happened repeatedly enough that the wife and I both have discussed it and watch for the deers reactions.
Mule
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The whitetail doe I hit June of last year was running/moving onto the road (toward me)when I hit her.
Mind you, my headlight doesn't have a blue tinge, or any other discernible color that I can see.0 -
interesting. Never gave it a thought. Apply for a government grant to finance all future rodeo tours,study this,,,[;)][;)] 0 -
They blind the hell out of me! If I had my druthers, those lights would all be replaced. 0 -
i sometimew wear the cheap yellow safty glasses helps cut the glare 0 -
quote:Originally posted by thebambam2001
They blind the hell out of me! If I had my druthers, those lights would all be replaced.
A majority of that comes from poorly designed bulbs that don't have a well defined cutoff between Hi and Low beam. Couple that with a bad bulb and reflector/lens combination and you're going to 'dazzle' oncoming cars. Add to that "close enough" headlight adjustment, and you'll piss off a lot of people.
When I first did the LED conversion on my VStar I still had the repop Indian teardrop headlight nacelle and cutoff was defined, but not crisp so I kept it aimed a bit low and relied on the passing lamps for the needed "fill in" when on Hi. After hitting a Nightjar I reinstalled the factory 7" round nacelle and found what a proper bulb/reflector combination can yield. The difference between the Silverstar halogen and LED was night and day. Going back to a proper reflector and lens made it even better, as well as easier to adjust.0 -
quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
One study, years ago, found that a lot of deer bolted in front of vehicles, at night, due to their 'shadow' becoming shorter(rapidly) as a vehicle got closer,,,,,,,,,,the consensus was the animals became frightened as the shadow appeared to be chasing them.
Height of the vehicle/lights was somewhat of a factor,,,,,,,,
Bill, I can understand that.
In this instance, there is usually a string of cars, pickups w/ horse trailers directly ahead of me, at least across Teton pas and down trail creek ~16 miles.
We can always tell by the brake lights when the vehicle in front of us spies a deer, sometimes because of the lay of the road, we can see the deer illuminated by the head lights of that vehicle and most of the time the deer is assuming the heads up " deer in the headlights " look, and are standing like a statue, but when our lights wash over the animal, it moves off farther off the road or borrow pit. Not bolting or wild streaks across the road, they all move away from it.
I have been dodging deer, Elk and moose forever and have not seen the deer act like this. Hope it continues, away is good.
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quote:Originally posted by thebambam2001
They blind the hell out of me! If I had my druthers, those lights would all be replaced.
You might want to get your eyes checked out for cataracts. One of the symptoms is excessive glare.0 -
Haven't seen a mule deer since I installed mine, so can't say how they react. I can say that I have yet to be "blipped" by anyone who thought I was driving with the high beams on. Maybe folks are just getting used to the brighter lights. 0 -
Used to see deer all the time on my Harley, even hit one. But funny thing since I changed to LED have not seen one. 0 -
I hate meeting those damned LED headlights on the road. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
Used to see deer all the time on my Harley, even hit one. But funny thing since I changed to LED have not seen one.
Interesting, I'm seeing more. But then the additional ones I see are the ones the halogen beam pattern wouldn't/couldn't reveal both further out and off to the sides.
I've always held out, and told others, if you see one there's going to be more nearby and the one you hit will be the one you didn't see.0 -
quote:Originally posted by asphalt cowboy
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
Used to see deer all the time on my Harley, even hit one. But funny thing since I changed to LED have not seen one.
Interesting, I'm seeing more. But then the additional ones I see are the ones the halogen beam pattern wouldn't/couldn't reveal both further out and off to the sides.
I've always held out, and told others, if you see one there's going to be more nearby and the one you hit will be the one you didn't see.
Trust me I'm looking after hitting one and just missing several others my head is on a Swivel. They are around too cause I have about 6 total living at my place.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bubba Jr.
quote:Originally posted by thebambam2001
They blind the hell out of me! If I had my druthers, those lights would all be replaced.
You might want to get your eyes checked out for cataracts. One of the symptoms is excessive glare.
Just had cataract surgery on both eyes in March. Those lights still suck!0 -
Oh I didn't doubt. Just pointing out the difference in experience.
We have rather liberal tag allowance for hunters, and still have a large deer herd in this part Kansas. Since I'm as likely to be riding at night as during the day I put deer right next to crazed/stupid cagers on my risk list. And yet, I hit a deer, in the most unlikely places.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bubba Jr.
quote:Originally posted by thebambam2001
They blind the hell out of me! If I had my druthers, those lights would all be replaced.
You might want to get your eyes checked out for cataracts. One of the symptoms is excessive glare.
Also Glaucoma, the easy fix is eye drops if you catch it early enough. After that, surgery. I'd suggest getting a checkup.
Glaucoma can cause a number of vision problems, such as loss of contrast sensitivity, problems with glare, and light sensitivity. Miotics, a class of glaucoma medications that constricts the pupil to increase fluid flow, can contribute to problems with glare as well.
Halogen lights, such as car headlights and fluorescent light fixtures, can sometimes cause uncomfortable glare. Some people with glaucoma also notice glare in stores with fluorescent lighting.
https://www.glaucoma.org/treatment/glaucoma-and-driving.php0
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