This is the Only Brake Dance I know How to Do
Coming back from town today I heard a grinding sound from the right front.
I love my little 91 Honda. It never gives me much problem and has only been towed once when I broke a timing belt. No way to limp home with that.
I get home and pop off the right front tire. Yep, pads are worn out, but the disc is not scored. It won't need turning.
Button it back up for a quick trip into town, secure a set of disc pads, and tomorrow I take about an hour to do both sides. The pads cost me $16. and that's straight retail. If you think Budget Brakes is giving you a good deal, think again. That ninety eight bucks price they advertise is for ONE WHEEL.
Working with my hands is one of the most relaxing and pleasurable pastimes I know.
I love my little 91 Honda. It never gives me much problem and has only been towed once when I broke a timing belt. No way to limp home with that.
I get home and pop off the right front tire. Yep, pads are worn out, but the disc is not scored. It won't need turning.
Button it back up for a quick trip into town, secure a set of disc pads, and tomorrow I take about an hour to do both sides. The pads cost me $16. and that's straight retail. If you think Budget Brakes is giving you a good deal, think again. That ninety eight bucks price they advertise is for ONE WHEEL.
Working with my hands is one of the most relaxing and pleasurable pastimes I know.
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i do as much as i can on my vehicles...all the new electronic stuff is an expensive marketing tool for dealerships...their is crap on a 2010 honda pilot NASA could not figure out...best thing i ever did about 15 years ago was buy a car lift....still got a blue flame wrench and a big hammer... 0 -
Don't forget to check the slide pins. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by notnow
Don't forget to check the slide pins.
+1 I usually pull them out and shine em up on the wire wheel on the grinder.....0 -
P3
Turning the roaters is not all that expensive and will pay dividends in the end, unless the pads have less than 30K on them.
Another thin you can do is switch them out left to right. That puts a different braking geometry on them and they will last a little longer kind of like flipping a Chainsaw bar.0 -
good for you . I like to do all my own work also [^]
I have repaired just about anything and every thing .
I just changed the front rotors and brakes for a buddy he has a older 3/4 ton chevy van he uses as his work truck
who ever did the last "pad " change did a crappy job [:(]
I would have been ashamed to give it back to him If it was me but some do not care
the rotors were in sad shape pitted so bad they looked like and acted like grinding wheels , the drivers side wore out the pads in no time also the slide pins were frozen in place ( thats how I ended up with it called me about the brakes grinding noise )
I normally pick up the parts ( I buy off rock auto best deals I have found ) but he bought parts on the way to my house told me the rotors were 174.00 each not sure what the pads cost I would guess 30.00 or so0 -
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
P3
Turning the roaters is not all that expensive and will pay dividends in the end, unless the pads have less than 30K on them.
Another thin you can do is switch them out left to right. That puts a different braking geometry on them and they will last a little longer kind of like flipping a Chainsaw bar.
I can't find a place that turns rotors here in the big city. They force you to buy new ones!0 -
+ 1 hard to find a shop that will just turn rotors for you the price of Chinese replacement parts has just about killed any such old school repairs .
quote:Originally posted by wiplash
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
P3
Turning the roaters is not all that expensive and will pay dividends in the end, unless the pads have less than 30K on them.
Another thin you can do is switch them out left to right. That puts a different braking geometry on them and they will last a little longer kind of like flipping a Chainsaw bar.
I can't find a place that turns rotors here in the big city. They force you to buy new ones!0 -
Had an old brake lathe (iirc it was a Late 60's Kwik-way) at my old place, couldn't give it away, finally left it in the garage for someone else to play with. Thing cost 3 or 4 grand new! Did teach my tool junkie cop neighbor how it worked while I lived there, he would have loved to take it, but didn't have room for it. (bet he's conned the new folks to keep it around) [:)]
BTW: there is (or was) a decent amount of brake business out there. these kids can't comprehend anything beyond replacement parts... if that! There's a lot of older vehicles still running. Word gets around.
I have problems understanding how the ABS system is safer. [:0]0 -
Don't forget the Never Seize on the slide pins.
My 350's weak spot.0 -
O'Rielly auto parts and the NAPA(Machine shop) will turn them here in the Raleigh area. 0 -
Don't forget to flush/change your brake fluid!!! Most people don't know or forget to change it. Honda recommends that you do it every 3 years regardless of mileage. It's simple and cheap to do, And will only add about 10-15 minutes to you repair time.
If you don't know how to do it, here is a good video that shows you how, with a homemade bleeder kit by a professional mechanic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V5O_pbC8R2E
And don't use grease or anti seize on your caliper pins. Use Permatex Ultra disc brake caliper Lube... Is specifically designed for calibers and won't fail like grease or anti seize will0 -
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Coming back from town today I heard a grinding sound from the right front.
I love my little 91 Honda. It never gives me much problem and has only been towed once when I broke a timing belt. No way to limp home with that.
I get home and pop off the right front tire. Yep, pads are worn out, but the disc is not scored. It won't need turning.
Button it back up for a quick trip into town, secure a set of disc pads, and tomorrow I take about an hour to do both sides. The pads cost me $16. and that's straight retail. If you think Budget Brakes is giving you a good deal, think again. That ninety eight bucks price they advertise is for ONE WHEEL.
Working with my hands is one of the most relaxing and pleasurable pastimes I know.
Me too. Would NOT trust another persons hands to do the job right.0 -
I did a front brake pad replacement on my 2013 Hyundai Sonata last week. That's a very easy car to change pads on.
I haven't drained or flushed the brake fluid in any of my cars or trucks in quite a few years. I just use a suction pump and remove most of the fluid in the reservoir and replace it with new fluid every time I change the oil. Keeps fresh fluid in it all the time.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
I did a front brake pad replacement on my 2013 Hyundai Sonata last week. That's a very easy car to change pads on.
I haven't drained or flushed the brake fluid in any of my cars or trucks in quite a few years. I just use a suction pump and remove most of the fluid in the reservoir and replace it with new fluid every time I change the oil. Keeps fresh fluid in it all the time.
That will get most of the accumulated water out... but not as good as doing a total flush. But it's better than nothing0 -
I dont turn rotors, as long as the disc is not warped I have no noticeable difference. 0 -
Four years ago, I put new rotors and the best ceramic pads I could get on my Camry. Couple of months ago, I started thinking about it and I could not believe they had not worn out yet, so I went ahead and bought new ceramic pads. Pulled things off, those old pads were just about half worn, so damn, I put the new ones on anyway. A week later, I started getting a squeal now and then on the right side. Pulled wheels off, checked everything, made sure it was clean. Still get the damn noise but not all the time. WTH? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fideau
Four years ago, I put new rotors and the best ceramic pads I could get on my Camry. Couple of months ago, I started thinking about it and I could not believe they had not worn out yet, so I went ahead and bought new ceramic pads. Pulled things off, those old pads were just about half worn, so damn, I put the new ones on anyway. A week later, I started getting a squeal now and then on the right side. Pulled wheels off, checked everything, made sure it was clean. Still get the damn noise but not all the time. WTH?
Buy some of this, sometimes they will and sometimes they won't. This will alleviate it
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/permatex-ceramic-extreme-brake-parts-lubricant-09973/7730000-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=7730000-P&adtype=pla_with_promotion&gclid=CjwKCAjwzqPcBRAnEiwAzKRgS1rtHJmJ5bNIoRUiE6f2mkFjJ_6xNTtCaS5eyoM1nZsyxMH98ckufhoCOQkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CMT52vHpmN0CFRN1YgodcxcCyA0 -
Here it is Sunday and I just finished the brake job. The rain has been delaying me, but I got it done today.
The right side took me an hour relearning all the nuances. The damned little metal clips that hold the pads in gave me fits for 30 minutes until I finally got the steps to install in the right order.
The other side took me 20 minutes. [:D]
The road test was in the rain so it kept everything cool as the pads got broken in.
Right on and have a great Sunday.0 -
I've come to the conclusion that the only people who really tell you to have your rotors turned are the guys who have the machine to do it! That machine had to get paid off some how.
The last time I had a rotor turned, I got it back on the car & it was still warped. So I still had to go buy new rotors and do the job all over again.
Fortunately, the price of rotors has really come down - why spend $15-$20 to have a rotor turned if you can buy new for $25?
As an experiment, I put a set of new pads on a badly grooved rotor. Many miles later, there were no issues. Was that pad going to wear quicker? Probably. Are pads easy to change? Yes, very & cheap.
I've also noticed that some cars (mostly Japanese) come with 'life of the car' rotors - almost no wear at 150,000 miles or more. Others come with rotors that need replaced on the 1st pad change.
But yes, brake jobs really aren't hard and you can save big $$$ DIY.0
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