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Anyone want catawba "cigars" for seed???

AdamsQuailHunter
I have permission to collect catawba tree "cigars" for seed - hopefully to get some seed to germinate next spring. I can't guarantee that the seeds are viable - but I will be glad to send you a bunch of the"cigars" on my nickle - and maybe you might get some seed to germinate.

Contact me - AdamsQuailHunter@comcast.net if you would like to have any.

Edit - I sent out packages to all who replied - however I have enough seed pods for 2 more packages if anyone else is interested. Monday is the last day for any responses.

Ladies & Gents - Last go round - if no further interest in the seeds this will be the end and the thread will end.

Best Regards - AQH
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  • remingtonoaks
    Sadly I don't think they would grow in my climate, but they are a beautiful tree looking at them online. What a great giveaway. But like I said I don't think they'll grow in my area so I will have to decline your most generous offer. But thank you
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  • JamesRK
    Utah ain?t the first place I think of for planting Catawba trees, but if you know a place near a creek bank or at least a stream they just might grow. My worry about wasted effort would be if they did take off, would the Catawba worms ever find them? All kids should be raised around a creek with Catawba trees and plenty of small fish.

    When I was a kid Catawba worms went for 50? each and that was three quarters of a century ago.
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  • Mr. O
    When I was a very young boy, 4,5,6 years old, there were a couple that grew across the street. We used to call them monkey cigar trees. This was in the Metro Detroit area, back in the early 60's.
    They had no trouble growing large enough for 5 year old boys to climb them.
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  • Mercury
    Now see, this is my problem. I don't even know what this plant IS, but I'm thinking "Hey, I should grow some of those!"

    LOL.......I have over 20,000 plants in my nursery right now....zero room, and I keep growing more faster than I can sell them!

    DOH! [:D]

    So, no thanks, I guess. [:(]

    Merc (Who can't even SPELL "moderation"!)
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  • notnow
    Wait a minute. Isn't it catalpa ?
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  • He Dog
    Catawba is the Dixie name for Catalpa. It grows here, but desert willow a near relative grows better.
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  • Brookwood
    Had one close to home when I was growing up and yes....I did try smoking one of those "cigars" once![xx(]

    That tree sure did get some beautiful blooms in the Springtime!

    Your offer for seed is very kind of you AdamsQuailHunter! Unfortunately at my age and health these days I am reluctant to buy yellow bananas.[V]
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  • SCOUT5
    Great bait. One of my buddies has a couple in his yard.
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  • SCOUT5
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Considered to be a nuisance tree in these parts.

    Fast growing and prolific.


    Must be different conditions. Here in Southern Indiana we have then but I've never seen a place taken over with them. There not that tall of a tree compared to others in the region so I guess they get shaded out over time.
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  • pulsarnc
    Growing up in rural nc , Dad had about 50 or 60 of them planted on the farm . Selling the worms for fish bait was a good source of extra income for us . Had a regular clientele that bought from us for years . Mom hated the things
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  • Brookwood
    I am not familiar with the Catawba "worms" everyone is talking about. Could someone enlighten me?
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  • Brookwood
    I am not familiar with the Catawba "worms" everyone is talking about. Could someone enlighten me?
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  • He Dog
    Search 'Caltalpa horn worm', a sphinx moth lava somewhat like the tomato horn worm.

    Here, I will even do the work for you:

    https://55krc.iheart.com/featured/ron-wilson/content/2018-09-04-catalpa-hornworm/

    [:D]
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  • He Dog
    Didn't want you to pass over before you had a chance to see them.
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  • roswellnative
    I would really like some. Email sent thanks AQH. Ros
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  • miles
    Born & raised in South Ga, Catawba worms were prized fish bait.
    If you take the caterpillar, pinch him into two parts and then take something like a kitchen match and turn the half inside out you have one of the finest sun fish baits known to man.

    The reason for turning him inside out is to expose the good juicy
    part of the worm to attract more fish.

    Memories, memories. Wish I could go back for one more day of swamp fishing for brim and red breast but you know what they say."Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which hand fills up first."[V]
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  • WearyTraveler
    I'd like to have some of those trees on the property. I followed the link. While the flowers are pretty, am I correct in ASSuming that the worms would attract more wasps than not? We certainly don't need more wasps around the property. Or am I wrong?
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  • JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
    I am not familiar with the Catawba "worms" everyone is talking about. Could someone enlighten me?

    Miles? way of doing it is as good as any but we did it a little different. Keep him alive as long as you can before you turn him inside out. We took a broom straw, put it on his head and push his head out his butt. Put him on your hook and start pulling out bluegills. You can usually catch about a dozen on one worm, sometimes more, sometimes less. They stay on the hook. You have to pull them off.
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  • Locust Fork
    We have two of these trees in our back yard.....the ugliest trees you'll ever lay eyes on, but they are truly a magical thing to watch. Ours start sprouting leaves in the spring....then, just after that a few worms will start showing up here and there. Its like someone snapped their finger and all the leaves have been eaten. Then.....they come back out with another batch of leaves. The worms eat them again. Last year I saw those trees put leaves out three times. WORMS AS BIG AROUND AS MY THUMB and at least 8 inches long everywhere. The ones with the white stripe are the females and you want to tell people to leave them alone.

    Anyone near me is welcome to come get some pods if they want. It will not be possible until after the winter though.

    One of our trees has some poison oak growing in it that I'd LOVE to get rid of. We've tried everything.
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  • tazzer
    sent you a email AQH

    thanks
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  • He Dog
    quote:Originally posted by WearyTraveler
    I'd like to have some of those trees on the property. I followed the link. While the flowers are pretty, am I correct in ASSuming that the worms would attract more wasps than not? We certainly don't need more wasps around the property. Or am I wrong?



    Yes and no. Those wasps are specifically parasitoid, that is they lay eggs on caterpillars. The larvae hatch and feed on the caterpillar, then pupate in the silk cases seen in the photo. BUT those are very small solitary wasps which build no nests nor do they sting. There are hundreds if not thousands of species and almost butterfly and moth species has a parasitoid wasp species or two which lays eggs on its larvae. Most of the time they are around and you never know they are there.
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  • WearyTraveler
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    quote:Originally posted by WearyTraveler
    I'd like to have some of those trees on the property. I followed the link. While the flowers are pretty, am I correct in ASSuming that the worms would attract more wasps than not? We certainly don't need more wasps around the property. Or am I wrong?



    Yes and no. Those wasps are specifically parasitoid, that is they lay eggs on caterpillars. The larvae hatch and feed on the caterpillar, then pupate in the silk cases seen in the photo. BUT those are very small solitary wasps which build no nests nor do they sting. There are hundreds if not thousands of species and almost butterfly and moth species has a parasitoid wasp species or two which lays eggs on its larvae. Most of the time they are around and you never know they are there.


    Ah - thank you.
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  • AdamsQuailHunter
    Here are a couple of Youtube videos about catawba/catalpa trees and worms if you might be interested. You will note that they are not only for catfish or panfish bait - bass will take them too.

    Best Regards - AQH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UWGaAzHcigarette

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHTsW2UmW7U
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  • Brookwood
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Didn't want you to pass over before you had a chance to see them.




    Many thanks to you He Dog![:D]

    Just a little side story, I had a good friend who passed away last winter at the age of 91. He was a very successful cherry farmer all of his life.

    Two years ago I spent a day helping him plant a few new cherry trees on a new section of property he had just purchased. As I was leaving that day for home, he told me he had another few thousand trees (sapling's) coming in a couple of weeks.

    I asked him bluntly (we were VERY good friends[:)]), at your age (90) do you think that you'll be around for the harvest on all of these new trees? He just smiled and winked at me. Said that his son asked him that exact same question 10 years ago![:0][:)]
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  • JamesRK
    A fellow told me this morning ?you?re not really old until you quit complaining about being old and start bragging about it?.
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  • wpage
    Thanks for the generous offer Steve. As much as we love cigars here at the Jersey shore. Those buds even in the democrats wildest dream of global warming will not flourish here.
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  • s.gun
    Catalpa also called Hedge Apple Trees Around here....
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