Out With the Old, In With the New
I have a 1998 Nissan pickup that I bought 6 years ago.
I live in the snowy mountains of North Carolina. I bought this truck from the warm lands of South Carolina. It had 98K miles on it and never had been driven in the snow. Not a speck of rust on it.
I took it to my mechanic here in Marshall, Mr. Rodney, a year ago for an oil change, and I asked Rodney to assess frame rust. Rodney told me that I was one step ahead of the crusher! Good God I nearly fainted.
It snows maybe 10, 15 times a year up here, two inches one time, seven inches the next. Not exactly Aspen Colorado, but DOT loves to put the salt on the road. Even worse, they use calcium chloride which is really murder on vehicles.
Here is my Nip jewel. Just built an addition onto the log cabin 2 years ago, hauled half of that cabin up the mountain in this truck.
You wouldn't believe you can haul twelve, 16 foot 2x12s in a Jap truck with a six foot bed, but you can. All the plywood, all the joists, all the 1x12 board and batten wood.
Here is the piece of metal that fell off, last week on my driveway. Metal chunks have been falling off for the past year.
I have been diligent about washing off the truck! In winter, I keep a garden hose in the bed. It is a two hour drive to work, which is, in the warm lands of South Carolina. If I drive through an hour of snow, on the way to work, I hook up my hose to the spigot at work and hose the bottom off for ten solid minutes. See, my last Nissan rusted in two, six years ago, so I have been diligent with this one.
If I drive home from work, and there is an hour of snow in North Carolina, I hose the truck off, the underbody, for ten minutes at home. I have a frost proof spigot at my house.
I bought this chariot last week. This is a 2010, with 40K miles on it. Always garaged and never driven in snow. $15,500.
This truck looks like it is sitting in a showroom.
A new Nissan at the dealer is $27K. Including depreciaton, and increased insurance and tax tag and title costs, a new vehicle, in the first 3 years, would cost $21K more than this used truck.
Here is the ad that I put in on c*list for my poor, old green truck:
1998 Nissan King Cab, 4WD stick shift. 130,450 miles. I am the second owner. I have owned this truck for 6 years.
It runs great, 4WD works great. No rust on the body. Glass is good interior is good.
Cheapo price is due to bad rust on the frame. I have put 32,000 miles on this truck and it has been a great truck for me but I have bought another newer Nissan that doesn't have any rust.
I was not sure what to ask, like Rodney said, a year ago it was one step ahead of the crusher.
I got 5 responses in the first three hours. These guy are lined up to buy this truck! Two Mexicans and three hillbillies. What in the world are they going to do with a truck that is half rusted in two?
I live in the snowy mountains of North Carolina. I bought this truck from the warm lands of South Carolina. It had 98K miles on it and never had been driven in the snow. Not a speck of rust on it.
I took it to my mechanic here in Marshall, Mr. Rodney, a year ago for an oil change, and I asked Rodney to assess frame rust. Rodney told me that I was one step ahead of the crusher! Good God I nearly fainted.
It snows maybe 10, 15 times a year up here, two inches one time, seven inches the next. Not exactly Aspen Colorado, but DOT loves to put the salt on the road. Even worse, they use calcium chloride which is really murder on vehicles.
Here is my Nip jewel. Just built an addition onto the log cabin 2 years ago, hauled half of that cabin up the mountain in this truck.
You wouldn't believe you can haul twelve, 16 foot 2x12s in a Jap truck with a six foot bed, but you can. All the plywood, all the joists, all the 1x12 board and batten wood.
Here is the piece of metal that fell off, last week on my driveway. Metal chunks have been falling off for the past year.
I have been diligent about washing off the truck! In winter, I keep a garden hose in the bed. It is a two hour drive to work, which is, in the warm lands of South Carolina. If I drive through an hour of snow, on the way to work, I hook up my hose to the spigot at work and hose the bottom off for ten solid minutes. See, my last Nissan rusted in two, six years ago, so I have been diligent with this one.
If I drive home from work, and there is an hour of snow in North Carolina, I hose the truck off, the underbody, for ten minutes at home. I have a frost proof spigot at my house.
I bought this chariot last week. This is a 2010, with 40K miles on it. Always garaged and never driven in snow. $15,500.
This truck looks like it is sitting in a showroom.
A new Nissan at the dealer is $27K. Including depreciaton, and increased insurance and tax tag and title costs, a new vehicle, in the first 3 years, would cost $21K more than this used truck.
Here is the ad that I put in on c*list for my poor, old green truck:
1998 Nissan King Cab, 4WD stick shift. 130,450 miles. I am the second owner. I have owned this truck for 6 years.
It runs great, 4WD works great. No rust on the body. Glass is good interior is good.
Cheapo price is due to bad rust on the frame. I have put 32,000 miles on this truck and it has been a great truck for me but I have bought another newer Nissan that doesn't have any rust.
I was not sure what to ask, like Rodney said, a year ago it was one step ahead of the crusher.
I got 5 responses in the first three hours. These guy are lined up to buy this truck! Two Mexicans and three hillbillies. What in the world are they going to do with a truck that is half rusted in two?
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Nice looking truck 0 -
The Mexicans buy trailers and reefers and flat beds and tractors and cars and trucks and anything with wheels and a motor and take them south of the border and beyond into central and south America...
In almost any condition - they rebuild or repair or repurpose them in ways that would not be legal or acceptable in our country.
People who live near our southern border will have seen convoys and caravans and trailers loaded with scrap and crap flowing into Mexico.
I sure somebody will chime in and explain it better then I tried to.
Mike0 -
There are aftermarket rustproofing companies. I've never used one but I used to hear their ads all the time. Ziebart was one. If its that bad where you are, you might want to check them out. By the way, that one piece of metal you're showing is a heat shield off your exhaust. They fall off a lot. 0 -
Neither of my ranger frames or bodies ever rotted or rusted and we have some bad winters in New Jersey - dot uses salt and brine everywhere in copious amounts.
Never had undercoating applied at a dealer or on a vehicle.
Used to be that in the northeast cars would start to rust and rot and bubble up and orange peel within year two or three back in the late 70's and early 80's.
One thing I have never understood is why train track rails don't seem to rot - I do see signs that say do not salt or spray the rails but I kind of doubt the workers spraying brine and spreading salt strictly adhere to that suggestion.
Mike0 -
looks like part of the heat shield off the catalytic converter off the old truck [:0]
nice looking replacement you picked up
here in Ohio they love the salt and brine dumping tons and tons if looks like snow [xx(] and it loves to eat cars and trucks [:(!] honest I would rather fight the snow and ice than donate a car / truck to the salt gods [B)][B)][:0][:0][:0] a older rust free car / truck is unheard of unless it came from deep south or out west and the selling price reflects its condition0 -
2003 ranger. Snow in WY. No rust. Small scratches, some small dings.
Pull trailers, haul deer, antelope and elk. Nice beast.0 -
Well, the Nissan is a great truck and this red one is the fifth one that I have owned. Don't get me wrong they didn't all rust out. Girlfriend drove one, one time, totalled it, she has not driven a Nissan since. Another one, I really liked that one, a drunk female was drag racing on I 85 at midnight, she hit me from behind while she was doing 105, last I saw that psycho b**** she was being hauled off in handcuffs. I was, by miracle, not injured but it was Auf Wiedersehen to my Nissan.
This is my second one that has rusted out.
However.
Looks like the genius Ford engineers have UNDERCOATED their trucks at the factory.
Why the &%*%!!! have not the Nissan engineers undercoated their trucks? They buy that stuff by the train car load, they are already spraying paint etc on the car left and right, it would cost at the factory, what, $12 to spray on undercoating.
If my new Jap Jewel gets French Fried by calcium chloride, I will take a long hard look at the Ranger. I have heard that they are pretty good trucks.0 -
Take it to your LineX dealer, that'll undercoat it. I had my rear bumper LineX coated on the Tundra. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
One thing I have never understood is why train track rails don't seem to rot - I do see signs that say do not salt or spray the rails but I kind of doubt the workers spraying brine and spreading salt strictly adhere to that suggestion.
Train rails are made of high quality steel alloy that's more resistant to rusting than the steel in vehicles.0 -
Don?t you mountain boys have duct tape and JB Wield up there??[:)]. I like the red. That?s a good looking truck. A trick we beach runners use is to place one of those water sprinklers under the truck when we come off the beach. The oscillating sprinklers with all the little holes works well. Good luck with the new ride. 0 -
You might consider having your new truck undercoated. That could well extend its life by a few years. Had you done that with your old one you would likely still be driving it and happy to have spent the money to undercoat it. 130K is not near the life span of the rest of that truck. 0 -
Old farmers around these parts take used oil and spray the under bodies, not the exhaust. Then drive on the limestone dusty roads. Change oil and repeat, over time it builds up a thick coat of grease like coating on everything and frame doesn?t rust. 0 -
I have a 99 Nissan Frontier with almost 500,000 miles on it and zero rust.Before I got the Nissan I lived in the WNC snowy hills,but now I live about 70 miles south in the warm lands of SC.Alan,a few years(2004-2010)Nissan had radiators with bad transmission coolers.The coolers in the transmission cracked and let coolant mix with the transmission fluid leading to premature transmission failure.The cure is to get the transmission flushed and install one of the external filters that go in front of the radiator.Then the new Frontier will be as good as the old Frontier.As far as the rust problem,the guys from snow country can give better advice than I can. 0 -
I have a 99 Nissan Frontier with almost 500,000 miles on it and zero rust.Before I got the Nissan I lived in the WNC snowy hills,but now I live about 70 miles south in the warm lands of SC.Alan,a few years(2004-2010)Nissan had radiators with bad transmission coolers.The coolers in the transmission cracked and let coolant mix with the transmission fluid leading to premature transmission failure.The cure is to get the transmission flushed and install one of the external filters that go in front of the radiator.Then the new Frontier will be as good as the old Frontier.As far as the rust problem,the guys from snow country can give better advice than I can. 0 -
I had I think a 06 Nissan frontier 4x4 with a supercharger on it. I lived in The north west corner of connection at at the time.
That truck was one of the most under powered vehicles Ive ever had the displeasure to own. Got a whopping 16 mpg on the highway. Struggled going up hills with a wood splitter in the bed. And was constantly shifting.
Going up a moderate Hill empty on the highway it had to downshift till it hit 4000 rpm.
Been my only Nissan vehicle to date and unless one is given to me free and clear it will be my last.0 -
Had you not lived in connection it would have done better. They run faster unconnected too.[:)] 0
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