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  • Sam06
    Come on Kimi you are spiting on the false narrative that it was about slavery.

    I can guarantee you that Sherman could care less about slaves and 99.9% of the union army did not give one wit about the slaves.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    Come on Kimi you are spiting on the false narrative that it was about slavery.

    I can guarantee you that Sherman could care less about slaves and 99.9% of the union army did not give one wit about the slaves.


    Thank you for taking the time to read it and make comment, Sam.
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  • Sam06
    Thank you for posting a very interesting true history piece.


    For the life of me I cannot understand how Lincoln is ever viewed on as one of the best POTUS. He stomped all over the constitution and violated almost every amendment.

    Look at West Virgina, it is an illegal state and should not even be a part of the US according to Art 4 section 3.

    New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

    The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.


    The State of Virginia did not ratify this action.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    Thank you for posting a very interesting true history piece.


    For the life of me I cannot understand how Lincoln is ever viewed on as one of the best POTUS. He stomped all over the constitution and violated almost every amendment.

    Look at West Virgina, it is an illegal state and should not even be a part of the US according to Art 4 section 3.

    New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

    The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.


    The State of Virginia did not ratify this action.


    You're very welcome, Sam, and likewise for these notes about Lincoln stomping all over the constitution. When the states seceded they delineated this kind of activity as to why they were exercising their right to secede.


    It's hard to understand how my generation could become so ignorant about the truth surrounding this war. Yes, I was taught that Lincoln was the greatest president that ever lived. I chortled this to my mother with great enthusiasm when she came home from work one day. Now I can look back on her smile as I spoke then and more fully understand it as it speaks volumes to me now in that there was more to the story than meets the eye. It was clearly a case that met the Dr. Spock era, in this case, letting sleeping dogs lie. I also told many of my HS ROTC students the same thing during my teaching career, but by that time, I had obviously inherited some of my mother's traits where letting my students learn on their own was the best approach. Today, their children are grown, and they most likely have a have a much different view of Abraham Lincoln. One that paints him more like a master politician whose actions followed public and political support.
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  • iceracerx
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    Come on Kimi you are spiting on the false narrative that it was about slavery.

    I can guarantee you that Sherman could care less about slaves and 99.9% of the union army did not give one wit about the slaves.


    I believe the 'war' was 'about slavery', it just isn't the 'free the slaves' narrative that we have been spoon fed. (Saying the 'war' was about economics, trade, $$$$ and greed would be clear, but one of the root causes was slavery or the lack there of in the North)

    History shows (if you can find it) that the 'North' or more specifically 'New England' wanted to secede from the Union around 1850 BECAUSE of labor costs and the abolishment of slavery (in the North) in 1800.

    Few, if any, 'historians' tie that into the 'big picture'.
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  • rambo rebel
    the slavery argument begs the answer to this...?

    IF the war started in 1861 and the slaves were not "freed" until 1863 then the "slave war cause" crowd needs to tell me WHY would anyone start a war over what hasn't yet happened?

    has to be the only time in history a war started over what may happen.
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  • rambo rebel
    ditto[:D]
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