SS? Universal M1 Carbine!! Wut??
I picked up a few guns at an estate sale and one was a Universal carbine from Hialeah Florida.
My guess is it is a stainless steel repo of the M1 carbine.
I have not been able to find any online to get an idea of their value, there reliability of function or anything about the finish as to why, what was the point etc.
Anyone know about these?
I was thinking of sticking this on GB but want a clue as to describe it accurately and if by chance it has little value just give it to my daughter as an after hurricane SD gun
My guess is it is a stainless steel repo of the M1 carbine.
I have not been able to find any online to get an idea of their value, there reliability of function or anything about the finish as to why, what was the point etc.
Anyone know about these?
I was thinking of sticking this on GB but want a clue as to describe it accurately and if by chance it has little value just give it to my daughter as an after hurricane SD gun
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Here is a site that has some info on them:
http://maxicon.com/guns/universal_m1/universal_m1_carbine_production.htm0 -
Thanks, the SS had a different SN. Mine is a regular SN 469XXX which is a very late version.
Is it possible mine is chromed?
Can you tell from the pictures?0 -
I had one for quite a few years. I wouldn't try to put a couple hundred rounds a week through it, because I doubt it would stand up to that for long. That said, it was ok for what it was. Not a hundred yard tack driver, but good for a house and immediate yard gun. Had trouble with it feeding out of 30 round magazines, but they hung down so low I didn't really care for them anyway. The GI 15 rounders I had worked. GI parts don't fit for replacement on most of them, some of the early ones are supposed be at least partly interchangeable. Pull the stock off and see if it has one or two springs. The older single spring ones seem to be more desirable, but yours looks a lot like my two spring variant. Either way, they're not worth a whole bunch of money.
My brother saw it in my safe and couldn't live without it. Traded a Stoeger Uplander .410 SXS straight across for it and we're both happy.0 -
Nickel is more common, but there were some Universal stainless steel carbines produced for a few years early 80's. When IJ took over Universal in 1983 they dropped the stainless variation. The stainless carbines are all late production Universals, and by then the firms reputation was hardly stellar. Unless it was brand new in the box with papers, it is just a dressed up shooter...if it actually shoots, which cannot be assured with a late Universal. 0 -
neat little rifle I bought a Blue version at Woolworth new for 69.00 but that was in the mid 1970's ordered a couple 30 round mag I thing from nurmrich (sp )
I never had a problem but then I never ran more than maybe 3 or 4 hundred rounds thru it and traded it off a few years later for another gun ( do not remember what it was [:I] )0 -
Wulfmann, I've had two cross my bench that were painted black, with some of the small parts blued. Yours looks like one of those with the paint cleaned off. 0 -
Thanks, still not sure which this one is but it seems it does not matter as my initial thoughts were a repo of dubious quality as a shooter
It is very clean and looks like it has not been shot much
Best I sell it local as it sounds like trusting it to function for my daughter is not the best idea0 -
It doesn't look chromed. Try a magnet on it, SS is not as magnetic as regular steel, if the magnet sticks it is chromed.
I know they had a bad habit if breaking especially at the op rod. I would say its a 4-500 dollar gun.
I want an M1 Carbine but I want a real one maybe a Winchester.0 -
I like it [;)], have owned quite a few Universals and still do and seldom have or had firing problems, cheap mags are the most common problem, if shot a lot you need to keep the gas piston free for movement and removing the carbon buildup from the gas port. I know I'm 1 in 10,000 but I've had more problem with the GI's. 0 -
"Try a magnet on it, SS is not as magnetic".............most gun grade stainless steels are magnetic so this will not tell you any thing. 0 -
Magnet sticks like its in love so must be chromed [:D]
I will take all these to the range tomorrow and shoot them for function
Most are lever guns. I keep ammo for just about anything made which comes in handy when an estate sale comes along0 -
i had the iver johnson ss m1 in the rare folder sold it only made in 1983/4 0 -
Took all 14 guns from the estate to the range this morning for function shooting. The Universal shot very nicely, no malfunctions seems like a nice gun.
I was most impressed by the 2 Henry 22LR and the Henry 17HMR.
The 2 Marlins (336W 30-30 and 1894 44) also impressed me
Thanks for all the help0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wulfmann
The Universal shot very nicely, no malfunctions seems like a nice gun.
See, I told you [:D], 1 other problem I've found after buying a few on the "cheap" was the bolt arm dragging on the inside of the upper forearm wood causing jambs/feed problems....people never look there for a problem. Sand paper fix and a shooters dream...enjoy [;)]0 -
I seem to recall the 5.7 Johnson or 5.7 spitfire wildcat conversions being done on Johnson's and Universal's back in the day...
Mike0 -
quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
"Try a magnet on it, SS is not as magnetic".............most gun grade stainless steels are magnetic so this will not tell you any thing.
Really?
I just tried a magnet on a S&W 629, a Ruger Redhawk SS, A Ruger 10/22 SS barrel, A SS Colt Series 70 Commander, and a SS Barrel on a custom Rem 700.
Not one of them attracted the magnet like normal steel does, I used my gun safe as a test. Yes some did attract a magnet but not like carbon Steel.
Here is a good article on weapon grade steels:
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifles/ar-15/guide-to-gun-metal/
What I said and what you quoted was "Try a magnet on it, SS is not as magnetic", Notice the word "NOT AS".............0 -
Could it have a NP3 coating on it ?
Jose.0
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