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kimi
I bought one of these awhile back. paid 850 for it and they were 900 on the net. I never used it because the owner of the store said I could bring it back if didn't like it. I decided I didn't like it because it has proprietary magazies. but for this price, a guy would be nuts not to buy one?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216195720

I wonder what the difference in magazins is, they look identical.
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  • kimi
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    Sure is purdy!
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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator
    Holy cow!!![^][^][^][^][^]
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  • fordsix
    super i had a nice nib one from 1948 should a kept it
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  • Ricci Wright
    Looks like good guns are still bringing good money.
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  • mrmike08075
    Okay - twist my arm...

    I mean it's a used rifle - a second hand piece.

    Mike
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  • kimi
    With the provenance and the box, I think the winner is getting a good deal. I think the gun alone is worth the current price, plus. You just don't see pre-wars like this except on rare occasions. I've only seen two better, one 25 years back for $2500+.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    That is why the word beautiful was created. It looks like you could swim in the bluing and the wood is just gorgeous! [^]



    I wonder if the wood is cherry? It's my understanding that cherry is reddish in color whereas walnut is more brownish.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    That is why the word beautiful was created. It looks like you could swim in the bluing and the wood is just gorgeous! [^]



    I wonder if the wood is cherry? It's my understanding that cherry is reddish in color whereas walnut is more brownish.



    I don't know why, but i believe it's possibly a stained Maple? Someone here will know. [:I]


    Interesting.
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  • US Military Guy
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    That is why the word beautiful was created. It looks like you could swim in the bluing and the wood is just gorgeous! [^]



    I wonder if the wood is cherry? It's my understanding that cherry is reddish in color whereas walnut is more brownish.


    I have been working wood for a very long time.

    It is my opinion that it is walnut, but it does have a stain with a red tint. Usually stain is applied to even out the color of the wood. Sometimes it is used to change the color, but I never really could get my head wrapped around that technique. If you wanted it red, why didn't you just use a red colored wood? The above of course does not consider the properties of the wood - moisture / rot resistance, hardness, etc.

    Walnut is actually a pretty "open pore wood". On the other hand Cherry and Maple are not as open.
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  • Hangfire
    Beautiful rifle, Kimi..The wood is a perfect example of quarter-sawn American Black Walnut..
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  • kimi
    USMG & Hangfire: Thanks to each of you for clarifying this for me! It was the perfect example of being quarter-sawn that confused me more than the color.
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    just an example of cherry, it will darken with age. I just finish this.
    pWTaRewl.jpg
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    just an example of cherry, it will darken with age. I just finish this.
    pWTaRewl.jpg


    I knew that cherry was a light colored wood, Mike, but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?

    Thanks for the picture!
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  • droptop
    Drats, it's sold. Maybe next time.[:D]
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.



    Thanks Mike. One more question: When cherry, a light colored wood, darkens, does it take on a very reddish brown color? I've owned a lot of furniture made out of cherry wood, and all pieces have a reddish brown or dark brown, and/or shades of same in between?
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  • gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.



    Thanks Mike. One more question: When cherry, a light colored wood, darkens, does it take on a very reddish brown color? I've owned a lot of furniture made out of cherry wood, and all pieces have a reddish brown or dark brown, and/or shades of same in between?


    Can't help you James, I'm color blind!!
    That's a nice rifle! That guy lists some amazing items! Bought a nice '95 Winchester in Cal. 405 from him earlier this year.
    He just had a spectacular '86 with some factory engraved inscription from W. Sheard and a boat load of special order features including a Swiss Butt!
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  • He Dog
    Reminds me of those 94 commemoratives USRC used to make, perfect nib rifle in a box that had seen 1000 gun shows. Don't see those much any more, I guess they mostly all finally sold.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.



    Thanks Mike. One more question: When cherry, a light colored wood, darkens, does it take on a very reddish brown color? I've owned a lot of furniture made out of cherry wood, and all pieces have a reddish brown or dark brown, and/or shades of same in between?


    Can't help you James, I'm color blind!!
    That's a nice rifle! That guy lists some amazing items! Bought a nice '95 Winchester in Cal. 405 from him earlier this year.
    He just had a spectacular '86 with some factory engraved inscription from W. Sheard and a boat load of special order features including a Swiss Butt!


    Hi Ed! Maybe one of thesed days you'll show us your 405! I would love to see it and I'm sure most members would like that too! You're right he does have some wonderful auctions!

    Hopefully, Mike will come back on later today and comment on the question I have asked about.

    Have you made reservations for Tulsa yet?
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Reminds me of those 94 commemoratives USRC used to make, perfect nib rifle in a box that had seen 1000 gun shows. Don't see those much any more, I guess they mostly all finally sold.


    I use to see a lot of the NIB 94's, too, Dale. Like you said, though, I believe they were mostly all bought up.
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  • gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.



    Thanks Mike. One more question: When cherry, a light colored wood, darkens, does it take on a very reddish brown color? I've owned a lot of furniture made out of cherry wood, and all pieces have a reddish brown or dark brown, and/or shades of same in between?


    Can't help you James, I'm color blind!!
    That's a nice rifle! That guy lists some amazing items! Bought a nice '95 Winchester in Cal. 405 from him earlier this year.
    He just had a spectacular '86 with some factory engraved inscription from W. Sheard and a boat load of special order features including a Swiss Butt!


    Hi Ed! Maybe one of thesed days you'll show us your 405! I would love to see it and I'm sure most members would like that too! You're right he does have some wonderful auctions!

    Hopefully, Mike will come back on later today and comment on the question I have asked about.

    Have you made reservations for Tulsa yet?


    No sir.
    But.........I cleared it with my wife!
    I'll/we will be there!
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    here are 2 blanks from the same tree several years after being planed
    sn9YIfCl.jpg

    if you want to see this 'effect' put a 'fresh' piece of cherry in the window where the sun can shine on it and lay a piece of wood or cardboard on part of it, after several months the outline will be very plane.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    here are 2 blanks from the same tree several years after being planed
    sn9YIfCl.jpg

    if you want to see this 'effect' put a 'fresh' piece of cherry in the window where the sun can shine on it and lay a piece of wood or cardboard on part of it, after several months the outline will be very plane.

    Thanks, again, Mike. Very educational.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    "but isn't it typical that furniture and gun stocks are stained a red color?".............Winchester used a redish stock finish for years. as to cherry, it will darken with exposure to sun light. some furniture can be 'dated' by how dark the color is.



    Thanks Mike. One more question: When cherry, a light colored wo od, darkens, does it take on a very reddish brown color? I've owned a lot of furniture made out of cherry wood, and all pieces have a reddish brown or dark brown, and/or shades of same in between?


    Can't help you James, I'm color blind!!
    That's a nice rifle! That guy lists some amazing items! Bought a nice '95 Winchester in Cal. 405 from him earlier this year.
    He just had a spectacular '86 with some factory engraved inscription from W. Sheard and a boat load of special order features including a Swiss Butt!


    Hi Ed! Maybe one of thesed days you'll show us your 405! I would love to see it and I'm sure most members would like that too! You're right he does have some wonderful auctions!

    Hopefully, Mike will come back on later today and comment on the question I have asked about.

    Have you made reservations for Tulsa yet?


    No sir.
    But.........I cleared it with my wife!
    I'll/we will be there!


    Great! We're still on too. I'd like to revisit the James farm, Lee's Summit, and Joplin prior to the show, but might not be able to make it happen.
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