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medic07
About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
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  • medic07
    First let me preface that I am sure the rules vary from department to department so probably not a hard set answer.

    Background: Off duty Cincinnati Police Office used taser on 11 year old shoplifting from grocery store.

    https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/police-officer-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-stealing-from-kroger

    According to the stories, she was arrested and charged with theft and obstructing official business.

    The second charge is myl question. What Obstruction of Official Business would she be guilty of?

    The LEO was off duty and working a side job if I read the stories correctly. Do LEOs get to perform part time security duties in city/county uniform in many places which would then warrant the obstruction charge?

    She was wrong for stealing, just not sure it rose to the level of taser deployment.
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  • wiplash
    Want to bet that she will think twice before steeling again!

    I wouldn't take that bet, because now she know that she can just walk right out with impunity. Along with everybody else that wants to shoplift.[:(!]
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by medic07

    Background: Off duty Cincinnati Police Office used taser on 11 year old shoplifting from grocery store.

    https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/police-officer-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-stealing-from-kroger

    The second charge is my question. What Obstruction of Official Business would she be guilty of?



    I'm not a cop or a lawyer, but...

    The officer had been called to investigate reports of several young girls stealing items from the Kennard Avenue Kroger when he spotted the 11-year-old walking away with a backpack full of items, according to the release and Lt. Steve Saunders...She refused to stop after the officer warned her...


    That is Obstruction in virtually every jurisdiction.
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  • bpost
    Cincinnati, no different than Chitcago, same type of people, different location.
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  • shilowar
    Obstruction generally means resisting arrest. If she was tased I can only assume that she resisted the officer's attempt to take her into custody. As far as "off duty" work for my folks, private organizations contract with the municipality for services. That doesn't impact our jurisdictional authority to make arrests for criminal violations. I'm sworn 24 hours a day, whether I am at work or not has no bearing on my authority to make an arrest so long as I am with in my jurisdictional boundary.
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  • Sam06
    It was a bl*ck girl who has been raised in the environment of theft and obstruction of the Police.

    She got what she deserved and wanted.
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  • medic07
    Thanks shilowar. That was the main question I had. Here in San Antonio a large number of LEOs work additional jobs for traffic control for churches and road construction.

    They are normally in their city uniforms but private vehicles but still clearly in uniform.

    Mark, I saw that line where he had been called to investigate but just prior to that they stated he was off duty working a security detail. That was what had me confused as to the charge of obstruction. Most of our security guards around here are either way out of shape or tactical wannabes.

    The young girl is wrong for what she did and hopefully the courts will teach her a lesson.
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  • fideau
    Many city depts. here allow uniformed officers to work in uniform for private concerns.
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  • Laredo Lefty
    Early in my career I worked for a police dept in LA county. There is a good size mall in the city that contracted with my dept for officers to work security. We would sign up for overtime at our regular pay rate and wear our PD uniforms.

    It was easy duty but we were sometimes called to handle shoplifters. These people might resist arrest and even an 11 year old with the "you can't touch me attitude" might put up a fight. That along with running is considered delaying or obstructing.
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  • Ditch-Runner
    She got off free no charges per the mayor and the store agrees
    she is saying it was on a dare from friends ( sure it was ) and she ran because she was afraid ( of being caught )
    JMHO she will just keep on stealing or worse knowing the POS courts have her back and I am sure the store will donate some cash settlement to make it go away just another BLM lottery winner
    just boosting her entitlement
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  • 47studebaker
    She and her "family" just hit the lotto. Since they "arrested" her and tazed her and then the mayor and store didn't follow through with charges her "family" will sue and win. The cop will be lucky he doesn't lose his job(s).
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  • mjrfd99
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    Cincinnati, no different than Chitcago, same type of people, different location.


    The shoplifting has become epidemic. Well they ARE entitled.
    https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/89060-annual-theft-survey-says-shoplifting-continues-to-rise.
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  • Grasshopper
    And people wonder why Kroger is closing more stores in "non profit" areas they have. Read between the lines, they are shoplifted out of profits, simple math.
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  • shilowar
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    And people wonder why Kroger is closing more stores in "non profit" areas they have. Read between the lines, they are shoplifted out of profits, simple math.


    The Kroger store in our area is one of the largest/highest grossing on the east coast. They used to have several LPOs, first as Kroger employees and then contracted with Old Dominion security. We were charging folks daily for shoplifting. At some point they must have decided that the loss was cheaper than the LP, because we rarely respond for shoplifting complaints anymore. I guarantee the shrinkage is still occurring.
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  • kimi
    Hopefully, this incident will put her on the right path to being a good citizen.
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