OK say the government says turn them in..........
What will be the first free state that says no way, not here.
I vote Wyoming.
I vote Wyoming.
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quote:Originally posted by 4205raymond
quote:Originally posted by woodshermit
Most people, unless they have been to a war zone, have no real concept of what the military can destroy. As someone has said, if you see the big guns in your neighborhood, it's all over for you. I fear the fascists as much or more than liberals. Makes me glad to be old and white.
Yep, this is true.
Just before Westmoreland took off for Presidio I watched a Combined Arms Demonstration outside the Point. There were APC's, 155mm's, three tanks, mortar, wire guided missiles , and a few fighters thrown in from Stewart AFB.
I did not realize that tankers could swing those turrets that quick or that you could load a 155mm that fast. On top of that weaponry and armor have improved leaps and bounds since those days.
I found it amazing that the Air Force and US Army could reduce dummy targets and the side of a mountain to rubble in a matter of minutes.
Guess one could say don't become a target and avoid impact zone if at all possible. Guerrilla Warfare comes to mind.
It was called a "mad minute," when a combined force was brought to bear, in order to show us what could be levied against those threatening us, if needed. A10's were in the mix also.
Yes, it was/is Very impressive.0 -
New Hampshire gets my vote. 0 -
According to the constitution they can't use the military in country. Of course once the second ammendment falls, the constitution may no longer apply. Local police don't have anthing better than an AR with the exception of some full auto stuff. They are less accrate on full auto than an AR and most cops are not very good shots. I don't think my local law enfrocement has the will to go after locals guns. 0 -
When you see the A 10s come zooming in it is all over but the burying 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Turn what in?
yeah don't give em any ideas we got stuff................0 -
it will not end well I know I will loose but I will be protesting as long as I can and with luck show up at the gates ( most likely not the pearly ones [:(] ) with several + witnesses to the fight with me [}:)][}:)] 0 -
Here in Utah I don't think it will happen for at least three or four generations... 0 -
These states will not go gently into the night.....they will rage, RAGE against the dying of the light.......Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Vermont, The Dakotas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado. Hey, isn't that 13 states? But, that's all it will take to defeat the repeal of the 2A. Looks like the anti-Constitutionalists are in for a battle? Mr Hogg, please take your bare-headed wanna be woman friend and get yourselves back to school. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
History has shown us that the Federal Government will use the supremacy clause when they believe it important. While there is a possibility of a number of Sanctuary States regarding the 2nd Amendment, our most populous states will willingly comply.
As with most things, this freedom will come down the reaction of individuals.
Most will comply with the order. Many have a lot to lose, and would not want to jeopardize their future over an AR-15 or 30 round magazine.
Many will resist by not complying, but by forcing the state to issue a warrant and come and get them. The majority of these people will comply with a lawfully served warrant. Some of these will fight the court battle. These people will lose a great deal of their wealth in pursuing the fight, but are probably the best chance we have a reversing the law. (It is instructive to note that many of these folks have firearms that cannot be traced to them, and will have those firearms off-site and therefore protected from the search.)
There will be a small number who will resist and deny access to their property, even when served a warrant. These folks serve a valuable purpose in that they will give the governing legal authorities something to think about. While many will say 'my life is not worth an AR-15', they often miss the point that it works both ways. The threat of armed resistance will hopefully cause many in the law enforcement community to seriously consider whether their life or health is less important than the confiscation of a firearm or two.
I will be in the 2nd or 3rd camp. If they want them, they will have to come and get them. Am unsure at the moment whether the hands from which they take them will be cold. The longer it is in coming, of course, the less I will have to lose.
You're correct. I'm receiving military retirement and social security. I'm getting too old to go out and start a new career. If and when this occurs, I'll have to decide whether keeping my firearm is worth losing my source of income. It sucks when they have you bent over a barrel.0 -
"It" when the time comes will be like said by Sam06, when they turn that 25mm Bushmaster loose it will be all over.
Perhaps by that time, and already you are able to obtain night vision and drones. The 50, maybe a 20mm, but aerial from the Drone is KING. But the Fed has the Tech. But do they have the Soldiers with the will to fire on every house they will have to pass? They do practice with live ordnance.
When that time comes "It" will be by the division of the Armed Forces, or the Armed Forces will have to protect the citizens from the Federal Government.
With the integration of all services now linked up together using the same intelligence it will be hard to now divide the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, to do the bidding of a tyrannical government. So now there will be decisions to either divide and face each other by installation or band together to enforce the Constitution?
A lot of serious thought has been said on this thread. I have to agree that the western most states have the chance to be clear of the fight for either independent areas or combined areas of Government. But when the Fracture Between The States happens, the Russians or Chinese will be eating dinner with you. Who are you going to call? Independent individual States, Wyoming fighting for itself? How many fighting age Soldiers are you going to realistically get to band together to fight any foreign threat much less Montana?
Seriously, Divided We Fall, United We Stand. Once the confiscation starts to happen, that will be the sign that either we Band Together and send Help to the First confrontation or our ability to defend will be seriously jeopardized.
What our Federal Government needs to focus on is either asteroids or aliens, Atomic Weapons. How come the Fed is not digging deep to protect the population not just themselves?
Well ok, the Russians, the Chinese, The North Koreans, Fiji Islands, I mean they are sending their water here now to mind control the U.S..0 -
quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
What will be the first free state that says no way, not here.
I vote Wyoming.
Due to the insurmountable logistical impossibility of such an order I doubt it will ever happen. Most cops are pro-2A and there aren't enough of them to take on a task that will surely meet more resistance than they want.0 -
I'll remind some of y'all that the Afgans shot down Soviet HinD helicopters with shotguns loaded with barb'd wire. In other cases, they used rocks.
It's awfully hot in an armored vehicle when the exterior is coated in burning gasoline.
It's not the hardware that wins the battle.
An enemy you can't see, is awful hard to kill
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quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
I'll remind some of y'all that the Afgans shot down Soviet HinD helicopters with shotguns loaded with barb'd wire. In other cases, they used rocks.
It's awfully hot in an armored vehicle when the exterior is coated in burning gasoline.
It's not the hardware that wins the battle.
An enemy you can't see, is awful hard to kill
Essayons
Very true - you can't hit what you can't see...0 -
I have a 1/4 mile long gravel driveway with one way in. Terain and creeks and ditches make it almost impossible to get a vehicle in without using the narrow drive way. I have numerous arms that would easily disable anything other than a tank. Not likely to have a tank come here. If I so chose it could get messy for anyone not welcome. No idea how I would react it heaven forbid it comes to that. I see it more like the tax laws. If you fail to completly comply its almost impossible to totaly inforce the tax laws. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Turn what in?
Maps to the palace.0 -
And I say Molon labe. 0 -
Just say.... "NO". 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
History has shown us that the Federal Government will use the supremacy clause when they believe it important. While there is a possibility of a number of Sanctuary States regarding the 2nd Amendment, our most populous states will willingly comply.
As with most things, this freedom will come down the reaction of individuals.
Most will comply with the order. Many have a lot to lose, and would not want to jeopardize their future over an AR-15 or 30 round magazine.
Many will resist by not complying, but by forcing the state to issue a warrant and come and get them. The majority of these people will comply with a lawfully served warrant. Some of these will fight the court battle. These people will lose a great deal of their wealth in pursuing the fight, but are probably the best chance we have a reversing the law. (It is instructive to note that many of these folks have firearms that cannot be traced to them, and will have those firearms off-site and therefore protected from the search.)
There will be a small number who will resist and deny access to their property, even when served a warrant. These folks serve a valuable purpose in that they will give the governing legal authorities something to think about. While many will say 'my life is not worth an AR-15', they often miss the point that it works both ways. The threat of armed resistance will hopefully cause many in the law enforcement community to seriously consider whether their life or health is less important than the confiscation of a firearm or two.
I will be in the 2nd or 3rd camp. If they want them, they will have to come and get them. Am unsure at the moment whether the hands from which they take them will be cold. The longer it is in coming, of course, the less I will have to lose.
Texas might not. Florida probably will.
1 California 39,144,818
2 Texas 27,469,114
3 Florida 20,271,272
4 New York 19,795,791
Might be a good idea to acquire a little retirement place in Montana not many jobs but the future might be bright.0 -
The only thing "they" will get from me is a box of stripped lowers(all broken BTW). According to "their" regulations, that's the part with the serial number so that's "the gun". 0
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