Cracked cartridge case
What would cause this ?
would you shoot it?
first one I have found like this been shooting this ammunition for a long long time with great results
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That bullet is seated too deep. Don’t shoot it. If it came from the factory like that, I’d contact them. Nickel cases can split like that, but usually only after being re-sized for reloading.
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Looks like they were made in China, where QC is a little used option.
Joe
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where did you see they were made in China?
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I said it looks like it was. 😉
Joe
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That is some crappy quality control. One with a crack and another with the bullet seated too deep, garbage. I would contact Winchester they may need to recall that Lot.
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I would not shoot that.. excessive pressure. Always pull the cartridges out of the box and do an overall length assessment .
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forgemonkey: 31548983003547/comments/
Danny, has the cartridge in question ever been loaded in the chamber via of the magazine, with the bolt going to battery when hitting the bolt release ??
it has been loaded
I know I loaded it and unloaded it because that is when I noticed it looked different than the other cartridges
not sure what you mean with the bolt going to battery when hitting bolt release
Savage 110 is what I loaded it in I put three in the magazine from top with bolt open and then chamber the third one in barrel
I unload by working the bolt three times every-time I get done hunting
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Sam06: 31548983003547/comments/31549051385115
That is some crappy quality control. One with a crack and another with the bullet seated too deep, garbage. I would contact Winchester they may need to recall that Lot.
that is the same cartridge with crack and seated too deep
so far I have not seen anything wrong with the other cartridges
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I did send Winchester Ammo an e-mail
don't expect anything from them just thought they might want to know
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I should have told them if they wanted to see pictures they should go look at the Gun Broker Forums
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I would not shoot that.. excessive pressure. Always pull the cartridges out of the box and do an overall length assessment .
I am not arguing just discussing
I would think it would shoot with less pressure since the cracked nickel case would let go of bullet easier than a non-cracked case
I do think accuracy would be affected because of different head spacing
plan on not shooting it and giving it to a friend that reloads ammo
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Too much neck tension. Piss Poor QC.
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no sir I didn't even hunt with the new semi-auto Bar
I cannot keep from carrying my old Savage when I need to get more meat to feed the family
eventually I will get the Bar lined out and confidence in it just need to practice some more with it by the way another guy at camp had an older Bar I see what you mean about the weight it seemed like it was a lot heavier to carry, while blood-trailing porky the pig, than the one I got
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Winchester responded and I sent them some more information and a link to this thread I'm curious if they will look at it
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I had new Hornaday 308 match brass crack like that. I sent it back and they sent me new brass. Their claim was a bad batch of casings with not enough annealing.
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Most likely a bad piece of brass, or not properly annealed, from the factory, that split from the bullet tension on the neck while sitting in the box. You didn't notice it when you put it in the magazine, torched off the rifle, and the recoil moved the bullet.
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toad67: 31548983003547/comments/31549012049179
Most likely a bad piece of brass, or not properly annealed, from the factory, that split from the bullet tension on the neck while sitting in the box. You didn't notice it when you put it in the magazine, torched off the rifle, and the recoil moved the bullet.
makes the most sense of anything I have thought of or heard thanks
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Case neck weak or too small in ID, not annealed properly. Several reasons.
Seeing that is another one of the several reasons why I reload my own ammo.
When reloading I can FEEL if the neck tension is not correct when manually seating a bullet.
I trust myself more than I trust others.
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I have gotten the occasional defective cartridge from pretty much every manufacturer. From examples like yours to things like no primers in shotgun shells. When you figure how many millions (billions) of rounds are produced every year, it is a wonder it doesn't happen more often. I am amazed that I have never been involved in the numerous ammo recalls in all my years ( quite a few) of being involved in shooting. Bob
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To have a fairly new factory round with a cracked neck is rare. As time passes, however, the brass can weaken and crack. I loaded up a ton of .38 Specials back in the '80s with once-fired Federal brass. Shot the last of it about 10 years ago and some of the brass had cracked. Those that didn't have cracks before did after firing.
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