Win 94 1923 take down?
Howdy all,
My first post and hello! I acquired an action/receiver('94). No barrel, mag tube, stock etc, just the working action. My plan was make a fun project out of it. My father who is gun smith has lots of 32 special ammo and so that was the search. The ser number puts it about 1923. Well, finally after showing him the receiver he said it has interrupted threads which makes it a take down. We both do not know much about the 94 but enough to get in trouble. The search for barrel has halted until we find out more. Could ya'll give me a little history and what I'm looking for? Thanks for your time.
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Sorry, not me but there are some very knowledgeable folks here who will. Welcome to the forum. Where you from??
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Embarrassed to tell you.........California
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Pretty state.
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My personal experience with rebuilding parts guns in the past has been negative. Unless you really luck out, obtaining the required parts at a reasonable price. Your going to wind up behind the 8 ball.
Even with your father being a gunsmith. Assembling the parts into a function rifle, might not be a walk in the park? The salient question you have to ask yourself is? Will I be able to get the time and money I have invested in it, out of it?
Might consider putting the 94 receiver on our auction. Believe you will wind up ahead of the game, money and aggravation wise.
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Sounds like you have an interesting project in mind. Just make sure you are doing it for the fun of it not expecting to create a valuable collector's piece.
Takedowns are much more rare than other 1894s so locating certain parts will be a bit more of a challenge that for a standard sporting rifle. That said, just about any part needed is out there somewhere, if you are willing to do the digging to find it.
I'd suggest that you start by doing some reading and educating yourself on the 1894. Just a couple of recommendations: FIRST "Winchester Lever Action Repeating Firearms Volume 3, The Models 1894 and 1895" by Arthur Pirkle. Pirkle describes each and every piece of 1894 rifles and carbines including variations that occurred. SECOND "The Winchester Model 94 The First 100 Years by Robert C. Kennerberg. Kennergerge has a couple of pages devoted to the takedowns. There are numerous books written about the 1894 but I am not aware of any devoted strictly to takedowns.
Once you determine what you need for parts, start digging for those. There are a number of parts sellers online that disassemble old guns and sell the parts. One is Homestead Parts. Sometimes parts show up on the GunBroker auctions and also on Ebay. If possible, use original parts not reproductions. I have had bad luck with reproductions many times.
An 1894 made in 1923 is definitely worth saving. When looking for parts, make sure the part you are considering is for a Pre-64 gun. Horrible changes were made to the design in 1964. Oh, and make sure that the barrel, magazine tube, etc. up front are for a rifle, not a carbine. A 1923 rifle would have a 26-inch barrel. The magazine tube can be full length or short, but is unique to a takedown as it contains the takedown mechanism. .
Nuff for now. Good luck, and have fun!!
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Thanks for all your help so far. I guess I should have been more clear about which threads were interrupted but I think you all figured it out. Yes, the barrel threads. Does anyone have pictures of what normal threads look like? I will try and post a pic of mine and you guys can help verify what I have.
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This is a Winchester take down barrel. The threads in the receiver are similar but internal. Off set at least 90 degrees. Not sure if all interrupted thread barrels are interchangeable between rifles? Or have to be gunsmith fitted, on initial assembly?
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The above is an excellent picture of interrupted threads. The barrel is threaded with standard, continuous threads then a portion of those threads are machine away. While this was a standard process decades ago, it was found that frequent use of this feature often resulted in a slight loosening of the fit. Metallurgy was not the greatest. Much of the fitting from that time period was referred to as 'Hand Fitted' leaving gunsmith fitting as your option.
Original full thread feature Pre-64, Model 94 rifle (not my photo)
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Yes, that’s the interrupted thread pattern.
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